What Are We Looking At Here?

I’ve just been looking at two YouTube videos of vacuum experiments that involve different manifestations of the Biefeld-Brown effect, but I’m not sure what I’m seeing.

First, here’s an experiment by Eduardo Herring,  with what appears to be a "horizontal lifter," i.e. a rotor configured with the tin-foil-and-wire electrodes  familiar from  lifter construction:

Now, as I’ve come to understand it, this configuration is an "electrohydrodynamic" device, that relies on a "fluid dielectric" to produce any motion.  But, in a vacuum, there would be no fluid, no dielectric, and there should be no motion — as previously cited "lifter in vacuum" experiments have demonstrated. 

So, while the motion demonstrated in this experiment is very slight, why is there ANY motion at all?

Then consider this video, which shows an experiment by Hector Serrano.  The video is very grainy, so it’s much harder to tell what we’re looking at than the previous video, but I understand from correspondence with Hector that this is supposedly a solid-dielectric, asymmetrical capacitor: an "electrogravitic" rather than an "electrohydrodynamic" device:

If you look really close at the image in the upper left hand corner, which I gather is the capacitor in the vacuum chamber, then can can see that it, too, appears to be oscillating ever so slightly.

The problem with this demonstration is that if it indeed is a "solid dielectric" asymmetrical capacitor, then the results of this experiment appear at odds with Dr. Brown’s own statements regarding his experiments in France, etc., as cited in Chapter 70, where he says the results were so impressive that the apparatus nearly flew apart.  Doesn’t look like there’s any danger of that happening here.

So, anybody wanna hazard a guess what exactly we’re seeing in these two different experiments, and why the results (at least appear to be) similar when they should be very different?
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