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[Mikado14]

Here is Elizabeth Haich's own words, the definition of the painting with the horses:

If we cultivate spiritual awareness and attain the universal consciousness, we acquire mastery over the 7 natural forces which, when harnessed to pull in one direction, can carry us to the goal with incredible swiftness. The picture symbolizes this state. The figure representing the spirit is standing in the triumphal chariot. One hand is radiating the power which directs the natural forces. In the left hand is held a prayer wheel such as is used in Tibet and which symbolizes unity with the Divine. The horses race with this figure to the goal where we achieve the perfection which Christ intimated to us in the words: “Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in Heaven is perfect.”

Just so that we understand her meaning of her painting.

Mikado

[kevin.b]

Mikado 14,
Look for things held low in the left hand, and high in the right hand.
The incoming lines will be hard to hold onto.
The incoming negative will race towards the outgoing positive.
Kevin

[skyfish]

From Mikado:
we acquire mastery over the 7 natural forces which

From the sanskrit:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siddhi

Shamans play an important role in many cultures, mediating between the human and spiritual worlds
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27520235/

it might be possible to create a portable mini-magnetosphere for spaceships
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7706844.stm

skyfish

[Griffin]

AM and Kevin-

Yes, Wonderland indeed.

A hookah smoking caterpillar blowing doughnut-shaped rings, longitudinal smoke shapes, a golden chain. And a magic mushroom to top it off, of course -- plus turning into a butterfly to flutter on by with a final reminder before disappearing. “Oh well…” as Peter Green said and sang.

Hold your horses, folks, and give hypersentience a chance. I wonder if Alice experienced any downloads from inhaling those smoke rings? What fun!

Gryphon

[skyfish]

This is the rabbit hole...there must be a hookah smoking caterpillar !
A shaman caterpillar.

This man is worth looking into...
Ojai is beautiful.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J_Krishnamurti

"It was in Ojai, in August 1922, that Krishnamurti went through an intense, "life-changing" experience. It has been simultaneously, and invariably, characterised as a spiritual awakening, a psychological transformation, and a physical conditioning. Krishnamurti and those around him would refer to it as "the process", and it continued, at very frequent intervals and varying forms of intensity, until his death"

"...I was supremely happy, for I had seen. Nothing could ever be the same. I have drunk at the clear and pure waters and my thirst was appeased. ...I have seen the Light. I have touched compassion which heals all sorrow and suffering; it is not for myself, but for the world. ...Love in all its glory has intoxicated my heart; my heart can never be closed. I have drunk at the fountain of Joy and eternal Beauty. I am God-intoxicated."

"You may remember the story of how the devil and a friend of his were walking down the street, when they saw ahead of them a man stoop down and pick up something from the ground, look at it, and put it away in his pocket. The friend said to the devil, 'What did that man pick up?' 'He picked up a piece of the truth,' said the devil. 'That is a very bad business for you, then,' said his friend. 'Oh, not at all,' the devil replied, 'I am going to help him organize it.'

I maintain that truth is a pathless land, and you cannot approach it by any path whatsoever, by any religion, by any sect. That is my point of view, and I adhere to that absolutely and unconditionally. Truth, being limitless, unconditioned, unapproachable by any path whatsoever, cannot be organized; nor should any organization be formed to lead or coerce people along a particular path."[56]

and also:

"This is no magnificent deed, because I do not want followers, and I mean this. The moment you follow someone you cease to follow Truth. I am not concerned whether you pay attention to what I say or not. I want to do a certain thing in the world and I am going to do it with unwavering concentration. I am concerning myself with only one essential thing: to set man free. I desire to free him from all cages, from all fears, and not to found religions, new sects, nor to establish new theories and new philosophies."

skyfish

[Linda Brown]

A wonderful find Skyfish. Wonderful.

And it instigates this question for AM.
Have you any indication that Kristnamurti and Beau Kitselman knew each other? You have studied so much that I am hoping you have an answer for this.
I did note two interesting pieces of information from that link

"L. Ron Hubbard, founder of Dianetics and Scientology, suggested he was "Metteya" (Maitreya) in the 1955 poem Hymn of Asia. His editors indicated, in the book's preface, specific physical characteristics said to be outlined -- in unnamed Sanskrit sources -- as properties of the coming Maitreya; properties which Hubbard's appearance supposedly aligned with. Years later in the OT VIII material Hubbard explicitly claims to be the Maitreya, as well as the Anti-Christ.[13] (INFORMATION CAME TO US FROM BEAU KITSELMANS DAUGHTER THAT BEAU ACTUALLY " SAW HUBBARD TO HIS DOOR" WHICH GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF THE WAY HE FELT ABOUT THAT INDIVIDUAL)

Raël's Maitreya claims[1] center on the content of the Agama Sutra (Japanese: Agon Sutra)[14], supposedly a very ancient text written by Buddha himself, but which has been deemphasized or forgotten by the majority of Buddhist cultures.[15] Raël has claimed directly to people attending Asia Raëlian Church seminars, that someone born in France, a country which is often symbolized by the cock (or rooster), west of the Orient, meets the criteria of the Maitreya. Rael himself claims to be this individual.[16]( AH RAEL HIMSELF. MEMORIES OF LAS VEGAS NOT LONG AGO. SOME GENTLEMEN IN THIS FORUM WILL SMILE AT THE MEMORY OF THE " WHITE RABBIT' THAT WAS LATE, LATE, LATE ... FOR A VERY IMPORTANT DATE.)

So I am back to the main question. Did Beau Kitselman and Kristnamurti cross paths? Linda

[Trickfox]

AND NOW... For something different:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZ860P4iTaM

For those of you who can see you-tube videos.... this is a piano concert that I would NOT BE LATE FOR....

Maybe my kitty cat could do this too some day....
trickfox

[skyfish]

Hi Linda,
I found K. many years ago during my "search". Krishnamurti has been of major personal significance. Bohm liked him too. I have read many of his books. OH...by the way Mikado...he was originally recruited by the theosophists to be the worlds next spiritual leader..the next buddha...lord maitreya...that is a hell of a story....but later renounced the organization when he attained enlightenment. The 3 books written my Mary Lutyens about this are particularly relevent to "downloads".

Scientology is interesting. I read L. Ron's science fiction before I learned of dienetics. I am an EST graduate, which was a spin off of scientology. It was fun and somewhat informational. Had friends in california that were into scientology. It does have some validity...imho.

Gopi Krisha is very interesting also. I read two books by him.
One: Kundalini: The Evolutionary Energy in Man.
Sound familar? Your father would have understood him.

Suddenly, with a roar like that of a waterfall, I felt a stream of liquid light entering my brain through the spinal cord.
Entirely unprepared for such a development, I was completely taken by surprise; but regaining my self-control, keeping my mind on the point of concentration. The illumination grew brighter and brighter, the roaring louder, I experienced a rocking sensation and then felt myself slipping out of my body, entirely enveloped in a halo of light. It is impossible to describe the experience accurately. I felt the point of consciousness that was myself growing wider surrounded by waves of light. It grew wider and wider, spreading outward while the body, normally the immediate object of its perception, appeared to have receded into the distance until I became entirely unconscious of it. I was now all consciousness without any outline, without any idea of corporeal appendage, without any feeling or sensation coming from the senses, immersed in a sea of light simultaneously conscious and aware at every point, spread out, as it were, in all directions without any barrier or material obstruction. I was no longer myself, or to be more accurate, no longer as I knew myself to be, a small point of awareness confined to a body, but instead was a vast circle of consciousness in which the body was but a point, bathed in light and in a state of exultation and happiness impossible to describe.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gopi_Krishna

This is the kundalini experience. A real phenomenon. I believe that is is a direct experience of the aether..brahman.
Immersed in a seal of light, simultaneously conscious and aware at every point....in all directions without any barrier....a small point of awareness....a vast cirlce of consciousness...bathed in light and happiness...
This is what I have been talking about. We do have the aether at the very core of our being. The eternal...and that is our nature.

Sorry about shooting your horse...but sleeping under the stars...ahhhh!!!! I love that!
Now..could you please pass the cheese!

with joy,
skyfish

[skyfish]

Where does inspiration come from? Maybe these folks are on the right track! I think so.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institute_ ... s_Research
skyfish

[skyfish]

This is the approaching singularity...not technology. A human one.
Biological/spiritual. Oneness...with the eternal...with brahman...the creator...the aether! Everything is a manifestation of brahman...the aether. Pre-particle...non-relativistic. All of time.

http://www.icrcanada.org/about.html

The esoteric systems of India, on the other hand, view consciousness as the ultimate or paramount reality. This supreme reality, or Brahman as it is called, is said to be beyond the capacity of our limited human mind to perceive directly, as it is infinite, formless, timeless, and has no physical attributes by which we can comprehend it directly. Our individual awareness is said to be like a drop in this infinite ocean and the physical world that we perceive as external to us is held to be a projection of this individual drop of awareness.

This constitutes a complete reversal of the western, scientific, world-view. The reason that we do not experience reality in this way, at our current level of perception, is due to the limitations placed on our consciousness by the brain and nervous system of our body, through which it functions. The goal of evolution, or at least the next step to which we are evolving, would be the enhancement of our perceptive faculties to the point where this new world-picture is a day-to-day reality

in joy,
skyfish

[Linda Brown]

Skyfish,

Your quote from your source was wonderful

"
This constitutes a complete reversal of the western, scientific, world-view. The reason that we do not experience reality in this way, at our current level of perception, is due to the limitations placed on our consciousness by the brain and nervous system of our body, through which it functions. The goal of evolution, or at least the next step to which we are evolving, would be the enhancement of our perceptive faculties to the point where this new world-picture is a day-to-day reality"

As fine a message as we could ever find in the language that we share. Linda

[skyfish]

Thank you Linda,

Now...here is the connection to your fathers work...this is why I have come.
The illumination...that is the aether.
It is pre-particle form...it has many names.
Energy in this medium travels fater than light.
It is the quantum pressure that creates gravity.
It is the quantum pressure expanding the universe.
As in electromagetism so in the aether...MATCHING.
Aether affects em...but em manifests from the aether.
This is what you father was recording.
The nerve impulses of the creator.
This is the source of inspiration.
It is conscious.
It is eternal.
It is brahman...and has other names.
It resides in all matter and all space.
It is the foundation of creation.

It resides at the core of our very being and we can know it.

Just connecting the dots!

with much joy
skyfish

[AM2]

Lady of the Lake, there are two possible explanations for your above post:

- an incredible bubbling up coming to the fore

- you finally read my message and through employing an indirect approach of hinting at the portions of my letter you are trying to make me reveal more in the public

If the second is true, then you are underestimating my intelligence. I am very much familiar with the art of the indirect approach - don't forget that I have spent years "hanging out" with the Chinese.

If you are really employing this tactic, then you are a very naughty Lady of the Lake. Not at all an innocent hummingbird. Anyway I never believed that you are a hummingbird. You are more like a clever and crafty squirrel.

As for your question on Dr. Kitselman and Jiddu Krishnamurti - if you read my message then you already know the answer. But since you want me to say it here in the open, then I will do so.

My source told me a couple of months ago that Dr. Kitselman admired Jiddu Krishnamurti very much and could have been even a kind of a supporter (this information about offering support to Krishnamurti has to be checked thoroughly).

The fact that Dr. Kitselman was fond of Jiddu Krishnamurti is also evident from his writtings.

Rael and Hubbard are in my opinion intellectual prostitutes of the worst kind. You know what Dr. Kitselman thought about Hubbard and why he escorted him out of his house? Because Hubbard was a fat, greedy swine. Rael claimining to be the future Buddha, the Maitreya himself?! Ha, ha, ha .... ha. This is sickening and an insult to any and every Buddhist on God's green Earth. He is in my opinion a self-deluded fraud. A disgusting parasite, who cannot even pronounce the name of Lord Buddha properly.

These are the people that vulgarize the sacred traditions for their own profit and fame. Human gullibility knows no limits.

AM

[Linda Brown]

AM,

Still not quite getting it, are you?

"Lady of the Lake, there are two possible explanations for your above post:

- an incredible bubbling up coming to the fore

- you finally read my message and through employing an indirect approach of hinting at the portions of my letter you are trying to make me reveal more in the public"

First of all .... I haven't " finally read your message". If it was a PM then you should know by now that I rarely am able to open that ... for some reason. Its an ongoing problem. If it is something that you left for me in the open forum then forgive me, but I have missed that too.

I don't give a rip about your revealing more in public. As with everything that is offered I know that the light goes through a prism before it hits the floor..

You are proably closer to right with the first thought. But again can't there be others?

"If you are really employing this tactic, then you are a very naughty Lady of the Lake. Not at all an innocent hummingbird. Anyway I never believed that you are a hummingbird. You are more like a clever and crafty squirrel"

Never said I was a hummingbird, nor do I believe that I am a squirrel. You disadvantage here is that you don't know WHAT I am. <g>

"
If the second is true, then you are underestimating my intelligence. I am very much familiar with the art of the indirect approach - don't forget that I have spent years "hanging out" with the Chinese." TRUST ME here. I never forget that.

"My source told me a couple of months ago that Dr. Kitselman admired Jiddu Krishnamurti very much and could have been even a kind of a supporter (this information about offering support to Krishnamurti has to be checked thoroughly"

Then your " source " should have told you something that could not have been easily surmised by skimming the Internet. You are not telling me or anyone here what each of us could not have surmised. Your " source" needs to be more informative.

Later then, Linda

[AM2]

You disadvantage here is that you don't know WHAT I am. <g>

I may be disadvantaged here, but one thing I am certain of - you are somebody very special.

AM