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Re: PROJECT:PEGASUS

Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 7:16 pm
by Junglelord
May I offer this possible thought.
The right hand rule is the Law of Gyroscopic Motion.
Electrons, Protons, Neutrons, behave in a Mechanical way!
Maxwell said the field was a mechanical field!
He said in a literal way.
Faraday said the same thing, with the literal meaning fully accepted.
I take that as a literal meaning. Lets give it a literal meaning.

If you want to redirect the Mechanical Effects of the field, this would seem to be a important concept.

Go out and ask any electrician or physicist why the hand rules exist.
They do not know! They just know it does.
I believe I can tell you why! You tell me if I might be right.

The Mechanical Laws of Gyroscopes are what makes the EM rules in the Right Hand Rule.
The gyroscope mechanical laws are the proper way to explain and account for the right hand rule and all hand rules.
http://www.thunderbolts.info/forum/phpB ... =10&t=1159
Gyroscope atomic units called electrons and protons EM relationships are due to mechanical laws of gyroscopes.
http://www.josephnewman.com/

This knowledge of spin allows us to not only understand the hand rules but explains why copper atoms can produce a internal back EMF voltage that is huge.

This is clearly borne out in this voltage anaomaly paper, which is what Joseph Newman is talking about.
http://www.intalek.com/Index/Projects/R ... /jap77.pdf

University of Guelph Ontario, Gyroscopes.
http://www.physics.uoguelph.ca/~detong/ ... oscope.pdf

Everything you need to understand Gyroscopes.
http://www.gyroscopes.org/index.asp
http://www.gyroscope.com/default.asp

Exploring Gyroscopic Motion
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VAavF8EJzw

This is the level above Primary Angular Momentum.
I hope that quantifies the level of Mechanical Laws of gyroscopes and subatomic particle reactions to force and also the Law of Quadrature (Wilbert Smith) as opposed to the work of Dave Thompson and APM.

Primary Angular Momentum is not gyroscopic. Not in the sense of the Atomic Unit properties that creates that mechanial effect I just mentioned. When encapsulated via aethers 2 spin rotating magnetic field PAM is a quantum spin.
Hopefully this is understood. Spin domains is what I am trying to explain.
PAM is the first spin domain, is a quantum spin and is not to be confused with the next level, the level it creates when encapsulated in aether. The atomic distributed unit it creates does have gyroscopic mechanical laws. PAM has quantum spin laws, they are not the same thing.

MERRY GO ROUND

Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 7:30 pm
by MARK MOODY
Sometimes, sometimes.......
DNA and water?
Kevin B is this related somehow to this thread?
Although this thread was started by me with good intentions, it continues to run afoul of the topic at hand.
It has been stated elsewhere in the past, by me and others, to please stay on track.
While I understand the persistant back and forth, I feel lost in this.
So, I believe I may have found a solution for this problem that refuses to go away.
I shall no longer post on this forum.
I am now signing off for the last time.
Those who have my email address please feel free to contact me with relative info.
Please do not contact with any other matters, questions or requests unless it pertains to
either a group meeting, the book being published or some other useful info related to my interests.
I mean this in a good way and I hope all take it as such.
Please respect my wishes.
I never did care too much for the dizzying ride of a merry go round.
I feel that although I may ask everyone tostay on thread, that it is not my responsibilty
to do so.
Progress, true progress,can not be made this way.
The wheels are spinning again.
And I for one am tired of the circles.
Love you all.
Linda I eagerly await our meeting, please forgive me?
Mark

Re: PROJECT:PEGASUS

Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 7:43 pm
by Mikado14
Time to start cooking dinner,

I have the lasagna noodles in the pot and boiling, the ricotta mixed with a bit of Romano and cinnamon and of course a good herb sauce with a bit of ground meat in it.

When everything is done, I start to build it in layers.

For dessert, I believe I will make a cake...not a simple sheet cake...any ideas?

Mikado

Re: PROJECT:PEGASUS

Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 8:06 pm
by kevin.b
Mark MOODY, Hmmmmmm.
My post was directed directly towards your thread, run and hide away if you must.
Kevin

Re: PROJECT:PEGASUS

Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 10:17 pm
by Trickfox
Yes... good Idea Mikado
Let's do that...

Mark... You have to give us your recepy for tonight's dinner before signing off permanently... It's like..... a forum rule ...

Tonight my French Bread pizza recepy includes home made Italian meat sauce , prepared by pan-frying ground beef, red and green peppers, and onions. Then, this cooked combination is mixed in a pot with black olives, mushrooms, tomato sauce, tomato soup concentrate, tomato paste, whole Italian tomatoes whipped to a paste consistency. Seasonings are a garlic italian combination and a few tablespoons of sugar.
Once the sauce is ready, it is set aside for a while. The French bread is sliced in half and put inside a pyrex baking pan. The sauce is thickly spread on the bread then Pizza toppings are generoulsy added and include real Bacon bits, Mushrooms, Chopped little green onions, Slices of tomatoes, Crushed pinapples, and the whole thing is smothered in massive amounts of shredded Motzarello cheeze and baked in the oven for 20 minutes at 450 degrees or until the cheese is golden brown, but not dark. The bottom of the bread crusts should be hard but not burned.
Mark....I know you would love a piece..... be a sport... join in on this....

Let the merry go round swing but get off of it and dine with us if you wish (if only virtually).
We need to eat and drink and be merry my friends.
Bon Appetti

Trickfox

dessert

Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 10:30 pm
by MARK MOODY
For dessert :D
I am preparing my world famous cinnamon struesal swirl cake.
After it comes fresh out the oven, I immediately place you slice in a bowl with vanilla ice cream
The heat from the still hot cake causes the ice cream to begin to melt :lol:
After eating your fill and dessert, if you still feel like more of my specialties,
I'll offer up chocolate hostess ho-ho's mixed also with vanilla ice cream.
Mark

Re: PROJECT:PEGASUS

Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 10:36 pm
by skyfish
Trickfox, Mikado,
Can you recommend a good source for barium titanate? A supplier that
would deal in non-industrial quantities?

http://gtresearchnews.gatech.edu/newsre ... tanate.htm

Do you think that something like this material in the link would work?

skyfish

Re: dessert

Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 11:27 pm
by Trickfox
MARK MOODY wrote:For dessert :D
I am preparing my world famous cinnamon struesal swirl cake.
After it comes fresh out the oven, I immediately place you slice in a bowl with vanilla ice cream
The heat from the still hot cake causes the ice cream to begin to melt :lol:
After eating your fill and dessert, if you still feel like more of my specialties,
I'll offer up chocolate hostess ho-ho's mixed also with vanilla ice cream.
Mark
Wow... I knew that Mark was good but...Desert looks absolutely DELICIOUS.... Now I'm sure we need to get together soon if only to cook something up together :wink:

Seriously.....Hang-in the Marc...
Raymond :!:

Skyfish...Send a PM to Andrew Bolland,... he knows where to get what you need.

BaTi

Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 12:22 am
by Mikado14
Trickfox wrote:
Skyfish...Send a PM to Andrew Bolland,... he knows where to get what you need.
Yes Mr skyfish, I concure, Andrew would know best as to any non-commercial sources.

Mikado

Re: PROJECT:PEGASUS

Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 3:03 pm
by JZimmer
You know all,

I love to cook! It is a hobby that I have taken up many years ago, and constantly work to improve on and refine. I have found that there are a couple of simple rules to making a great meal that I will share.

First, if you want to be consistent, you must use the same ingredients in roughly the same quantities to make the results something that everyone wants time after time. Several years ago however, I discovered this cook named Michale Smith who's belief was that if you understood the ingredients and how they interacted you could make wonderful discoveries without ever using a receipt.

To my delight I discovered that this opened up a world of expreiences where the tastes that I most liked could be used in ways I never thought of, were outside the box as far as how they tasted, but at the same time still carried the themes that I have so loved to enjoy thougthout my life.

It's funny that there are so many ways to blend ingredients to make a great italian meat sauce. All are different, yet the blend of the spices and skill of the cook make the same basic meal.

There is a message here, for those that choose to hear it.

Jim Z.

P.S. It would be great for us all to get together to cook a meal, and I am sure that the results would be amazing! It would be an expreience that I believe that I would remember and treasure all my life... not to mention I bet I would gain a pound or two :shock: :lol:....



GGRRR... edited for typing errors

Re: PROJECT:PEGASUS

Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 5:34 pm
by greggvizza
JZimmer,

That reminded me of the scene in the first minute of this clip
http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/mU69KfbaLmg/

GV

Re: PROJECT:PEGASUS

Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 5:44 am
by arc
skyfish
You asked about barium titanate. You might want to read this first before you do anything.
http://www.eetimes.com/showArticle.jhtm ... =199202144
arc

Re: PROJECT:PEGASUS

Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 7:02 am
by skyfish
arc,
That is the same material mentioned in this link from just a few posts
earlier. I think that carbon nontubes would be better, but silicon
nanowire is supposed to be even better. It sounds like the durability
of these materials,and their ability to withstand multiple rapid charge and
discharge cycles, is the challenge at this point.

http://gtresearchnews.gatech.edu/newsre ... tanate.htm

I have been following the progress of this company...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EEStor

I think barium titanate might be a little more available right now,
but I agree that the nonoparticle film sounds to me like a good
candidate for use in a gravitator.

This link shows something that is remaining in my mind...

http://www.geocities.com/warpcore91/Capunit.JPG

skyfish

Can I throw in two cents?

Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 1:39 pm
by Mikado14
This thread was started by Mark Moody so my answer will be keeping him as well as his "wallet" in mind.

Barium Titanate is excellent as far as K is concerned. However, it is heavy for it is a ceramic. Another factor involved is that it needs to be kiln fired.

Mark asked at one point about using it as the dielectric for a disc. Not only would the dielectric have to be shaped to what ever the design of the disc (i.e. - triarcuate - imagine a cymbal with three compound curves ) would be it would also need to be kiln fired. Unless Barium Titanate fires differently in a kiln than other ceramics, it will not fire properly. I is also expensive especially to have it fired in shapes.

In choosing the Dielectric for a disc, one must look at the weight vs the K. Barium Titanate, as I said, is heavy, the lift generated would have to be able to lift this weight. It won't happen with Barium Titanate.

Mikado

Re: PROJECT:PEGASUS

Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 3:35 pm
by greggvizza
Mylar seems to be the best inexpensive easy to use dielectric that is most readily readily available. It has one of the highest dielectric strengths (breakdown). It's K value is not as high as BaTiO3, but for a first step it may be the answer. If you are planning on working with high voltages the BaTiO3 has a very low dielectric strength (breakdown). In order to be able to use it in high voltage applications it would have to be very thick, which means very heavy. Also note, if you need it to perfectly follow the contours of a cymbal shaped disk you would almost have to machine it after kiln firing, because the ceramic will shrink during the firing and will no longer be the same shape and size as the original molded piece. Ever try machining ceramic?

GV