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Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 3:18 pm
by flowperson
FTM...Part one. A device capable of forming an electromagnetic envelope within the medium around the object to be transported. Specialized feild generators would be generally used.

Part two...An electrogravitic device, which can be quite small and is included within the object to be transported. Targeting and vectoring of the traveling object is accomplished through employment of electrogravitics. In electrogravitics all channels are open for two-way communication on a continuous basis. The entire protective envelope is vectored and transported and the object arrives transparently and instantaneously.

Put the two together and I believe you've got a FTM.

flow.... :wink:

stuck no more

Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 3:38 pm
by Mark Culpepper
A great name I think. Stuck in the ice no more ............ The Resolute

MarkC

Electromagnetic envelope

Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 3:49 pm
by greggvizza
flowperson wrote:FTM...Part one. A device capable of forming an electromagnetic envelope within the medium around the object to be transported.
Not clear on where the electromagnetic envelope fits in.

As of about a month ago, I am now living in an electromagnetic envelope. They just put in a new cell tower right near my house and I am now bathed 24/7 in higher levels of electromagnetic energy. I am not happy about it, but, if now all I have to do to time travel is carry around a hand held electogravitic transceiver then all the electromagnetic radiation that I am now absorbing would be certainly worth it.

GV

Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 9:51 pm
by AM
Mr. Flow wrote:FTM...Part one. A device capable of forming an electromagnetic envelope within the medium around the object to be transported. Specialized feild generators would be generally used.

Part two...An electrogravitic device, which can be quite small and is included within the object to be transported. Targeting and vectoring of the traveling object is accomplished through employment of electrogravitics. In electrogravitics all channels are open for two-way communication on a continuous basis. The entire protective envelope is vectored and transported and the object arrives transparently and instantaneously.

Put the two together and I believe you've got a FTM.

flow....
I may be wrong, but somehow I feel that the above post is of much greater significance than we might imagine. Mr. Flow was not in vain called Flow. Much intuition flowed through him.

ESPECIALLY PART TWO. Might it be possible that the electrogravitic device itself was a crucial part of the FTM? I. e. not just serving for communication and for determining the co-ordinates, but for transporting the gravitational bubble in which the submarine (or other objects) were enclosed through time and space.

The vehicle is enclosed in a spherical gravitational wave. Then you tunnel this wave through time and space via an electrogravitic device.

Keep in mind the quantum tunneling and Dr. Brown's special diode.

AM

You forgot

Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 8:24 pm
by Trickfox
You forgot the most important part. "The on-switch". It's the mind over matter interface. No buttons whatsoever!
Cool huhn?

Trickfox

Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 8:28 pm
by AM
Yes, but certainly Sir Fox. Why do you think they were so interested in controlling their minds and developping various special abilities? ----> remote viewing.

As for the interface, remember Mr. Carr, the work that Dr. Flanagan did and Marcel Vogel.

AM

And don't forget Dr. Kitselman.

Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 8:51 pm
by AM
Mr. Fox, you must be able to do with your mind what Shmoo does with his body. Now, I do hope you know who or what (a) Shmoo is?

Please do not pay attention to vile slander about Shmoo and the etymological origins of his name.

AM

whatever made you think of Shmoos?

Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 9:46 pm
by Linda Brown
AM,

Now you are beginning to make the hair stand up on my arms! What in the WORLD made you think to mention Shmoos? My Dad used to have a great affinity for the LiL Abner cartoon strip and occasionally he would even doodle a shmoo on the side of some of his papers!

We particularly loved that log cabin in North Carolina and he named it "Dog Patch" ... and my mother used to laugh about using her " double whammy" which was something that one of the characters used. of course I fancied myself " Daisy Mae"

So I just wondered. What in the WORLD made you think of Shmoos?
Linda

Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 10:14 pm
by kevin.b
Had to google what a shmoo is,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shmoo

"Tastes like chicken" jumped at me?
I seem to remember one of those patches having that on, and mr Twigsnapper been somewhat amused at that?
kevin

Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 10:16 pm
by AM
It's really a little bit strange. I actually can't remember how Shmoo came back into my memory, but a few days ago I was causally surfing the internet and I came accross a Shmoo video-clip. I remembered the cartoon from when I was little and I how I liked this character. The Shmoo.

It might be that I was also thinking of Dr. Brown while doing all of this. And since then Shmoo has always been at the back of my mind.

When Mr. Trickfox wrote the above post about mind controlling the machines, the following thing occured to me: "One has to transform and train the mind to become like Shmoo and then one will be able to control these advanced machines without a problem."

And besides, I simply like Shmoo. He is so good-natured and doesn't harbour any ill-will. No malice in him.

Wouldn't you like to have a Shmoo on your side? Or become a Shmoo? I surely would.

AM

P. S. Sailor-Shmoo + Shmoo-anatomy:

Image

but remember ....

Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 10:26 pm
by Linda Brown
How dangerous it might be having something that happily becomes always your hearts desire without you having to think about the consequences.

But I have loved them too. Linda

Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 10:26 pm
by kevin.b
Another word "Bandersnatch" in that link.
in the where mentioned part at the bottom of the link," smooth as a shmoo"
Which leads to this, read the part headed EARTH, sounds spookily like where we are heading?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Known_Space
Kevin

Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 10:30 pm
by AM
Mr. B., perhaps the technology is not entirely fictional, eh? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slaver_stasis_field
Ms. Brown wrote:How dangerous it might be having something that happily becomes always your hearts desire without you having to think about the consequences.
Ah, what I said was largely in a jest.

I though agree with your words above, but only partially. Why? Because you forgot something important - if one wants to have a Shmoo fullfilling all his wishes, then one must deserve the Shmoo and become worthy of him.

Shmoos only go to right people. And right people do contemplate consequences.

And if you yourself want to become a Shmoo, you cannot do so, if you do not change.

Besides, have you ever seen an evil, destructive or even angry Shmoo?

To soften up the reality...

AM

Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 10:37 pm
by kevin.b
Teela brown appears in these works, stranger and stranger?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teela_Brown
kevin

Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 10:42 pm
by kevin.b
The man who wrote this is,
http://www.fantasticfiction.co.uk/n/larry-niven
He sure can write.
Kevin