Chapter 71: Missing Daddy

[Chris Knight]

Martin,

I'm trying to think where those references are as well. It had to do with the plasmadynamic and electrokinetic apparatuses...

OK, here are a few documents that contain references to cesium:

Electrohydrodynamics:
http://www.qualight.com/hydro/hydro.htm

Electrohydrodynamics (Suppl. B):
http://www.qualight.com/hydro/hydrosb.htm

Plasma Dynamic Microphones:
http://www.qualight.com/hydro/micro1.htm

Electrokinetic Apparatus:
http://www.qualight.com/hydro/8780.htm

Electrokinetic Apparatus:
http://www.qualight.com/hydro/8309.htm

Flow Control System:
http://www.qualight.com/hydro/flow1.htm

[Mark Culpepper]

I love it Andrew. You just sit quietly off to the side .... and when the information is needed WHAM! there it is! You are amazing!

Haven't had time to go through everything but I am sure glad to see this information, mainly in Dr. Browns words. Wonderful! I haven't noted all of the sections and comments on Cesium but I am dure impressed that here would be so much. Obviously connections somewhere. Thankyou for all of that. MarkC

[flowperson]

Cesium has a characteristic of being the second most "electropositive" of the elements with Francium being the first. However, Francium is not present in the earth's crust in sufficient quantities to be mineable. Cesium (caesium) deposits with the highest concentration of the alkaline metal are in Manitoba Canada.

Cesium's highly electropositive characteristics together with Andrew's references to it in publications concerning electrohydrodynamic and electrokinetic phenomena says something important to me.

Remember TTB's basic discoveries concerning the capacitance of materials. The kinetic/force actions of the materials always moved from the negative to the positive. Cesium is THE SECOND MOST ELECTROPOSITIVE OF THE ELEMENTS.

Also it is element number "55" in the periodic table of the elements, Just about smack dab in the middle of the listing of the "naturally" occuring elements. Why would the tracking of it's existence in Earth's environments become such an important matter in the 50's and 60's ?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caesium

flow....

[Chris Knight]

Flowperson,

From the that Wikipedia source, I see that it is a product of radioactive fallout that can be tracked, but I think the general consensus here is that was not where Townsend Brown's involvement was.

From the same page:

Caesium was used as a propellant in early ion engines. It used a method of ionization to strip the outer electron from the propellant by simple contact with tungsten. Caesium use as a propellant was discontinued when Hughes Research Laboratory conducted a study finding Xenon gas as a suitable replacement.

This was confirmed a few weeks ago talking with a plasma physicist. Mark Bean and I, a number of years ago, thought that the pointed extension on some UFO drawings (sometimes called a waveguide, I think) might have something to do with seeding the plasma field or altering the charge density on the upper canopy.

[Elizabeth Helen Drake]

You mean the little knob like ball on the top of the " Adamski Saucer" design? Its well shown in the Williams painting. That? Elizabeth

[Chris Knight]

Yes, I think so, and Lazar's design (whatever one's opinion of him) had something similar as well, if I remember correctly. It's been a long time.

It appeared in many of the drawings we looked at, that there were generally a lower canopy, upper canopy, a cabin with portholes (when present), and a top structure that appeared to be insulated from the cabin and / or upper canopy.

[flowperson]

Hi Andrew...Yes that was my point. There's something about cesium in an elemental sense that enables a "push me pull you effect" which in turn enables propulsion of payloads through mediums of space. From a layman's perspective I believe this should be similar to the "specific impulse" ideas I learned long ago when I was studying the physics of rocketry .

The idea being, cesium as an inherently "electropositive" element could indeed be utilized somehow seed the field ahead of its intended flightpath and thereby enable the utilization of TTB's theories concerning negative-to-positive capacitance/field kinetics. Does this sound sensible in making the connection ?

Thanks.

flow....

[Elizabeth Helen Drake]

I am sure glad that there are those of you out there who actually understand the science of this whole matter! To me its just the little knobby thingy on the top. And along that level of understanding ... I think I see what you are saying here too so there MUST be something here and I believe that you are closing on a complete understanding of it. yea!! Elizabeth

[Chris Knight]

Yes, I tend to agree. In the plasmadynamics / electrokinetics systems where he was working with asymmetric electrodes and ionizing medium.

There was an element of "leakage" that was necessary in many cases, and if removed, would reduce or eliminate any movement.

[Elizabeth Helen Drake]

so what your are saying is that the" leakage "in the case of the Adamski style saucer design was intentional, sort of a " casting out" of Cesium" I have a mental image of the ship following the cloud ... almost like a horse following a carrot ( but they don't) you know what I mean.

Am I seeing the picture? Elizabeth

[kevin.b]

Elizabeth Helen Drake,

In the chapter it says that Dr Brown sent some presents, one a book on ancient history.
Is there any record of what that book was about?, obviously ancient history, but general or anywhere in particuler?

Kevin

[Trickfox]

Trickfox,


I think that you may have missed one thought. Though that slot is presented as ONE individual it may very well be that there are more than one person represented here, requesting continuing privacy for their work. Why might that be? Spend a few minutes contemplating what it would mean to have had Dr. Browns name on that list. I would be interested to see what sort of scenarios might come to your head.
. JDB

JDB The very first thing that comes to mind here is: The fact that; - if T.T. Brown's name was part of that public list of NRO founders, his whole wounded prairie chicken routine would be compromised by this information. There is no way the NRO would WANT to be associated to Dr. Brown because of all the flying saucer conspiracies now circulating on the net.

The problem now is; What are people going to believe NOW THAT THIS BOOK AND FORUM is in place. Aren't we "planting" the seed of doubt?

It's like the sudden presence of hundreds of crop circles..... There just can't be that many hoaxers going around spending hours planning and organizing the hoaxes around complex crop circles. There is no motive to justify it.

We still don't have any evidence prooving exactly how the darn things are being made so rapidly, so often, and so widely all over the world. All we seem to be sure of...is that we have no control over it......

I guess it's the perfect way of teaching humanity a lesson about it's smug self assuredness. Just keep the natives guessing about reality itself!!!

Trickfox

[James Barrett]

Trickfox,

What about this for a good enough reason. You don't throw light on a history of participation ...until you are ready to throw light and deal with the consequences.

Someone once said on this forum that when you open that door to the other side you had better be prepared for what is standing there. This might just be much the same situation. If Dr. Brown was one of the early founders of that ..... interesting .... intelligence agency.... then what would it mean for those who worked with him? who were his assets, to be revealed prematurely?

No, I get the strong sense that there is a certain element of timing here.

Nothing to be revealed ahead of time.

And the revelation coming so that the fewest possible people might be adversely affected. I imagine that it is not something to be taken lightly and certainly not rushed for any reasons of ego, vanity or pride.

There may have been,(perhaps still are) ongoing situations that may have needed to be protected for a while longer. Compromised , losing their value in the future?

An example? In the case of an inbedded Caroline operative, what would that have meant for that individuals future? If he or she was destined to do a great amount of good in that position .... what might be lost?

Perhaps simply wondering about the situation ( as you said) is what we are supposed to do .............for the moment. JDB

[Langley]

Flowperson,

From the that Wikipedia source, I see that it is a product of radioactive fallout that can be tracked, but I think the general consensus here is that was not where Townsend Brown's involvement was.

From the same page:

Caesium was used as a propellant in early ion engines. It used a method of ionization to strip the outer electron from the propellant by simple contact with tungsten. Caesium use as a propellant was discontinued when Hughes Research Laboratory conducted a study finding Xenon gas as a suitable replacement.

This was confirmed a few weeks ago talking with a plasma physicist. Mark Bean and I, a number of years ago, thought that the pointed extension on some UFO drawings (sometimes called a waveguide, I think) might have something to do with seeding the plasma field or altering the charge density on the upper canopy.

the link re Cesium in ion beams and ion engines is up in one of the recent threads. Cesium 133 is not radioactive. There are many isotopes of Cesium, Cs 137 being the main isotope of concern re fallout The radioisotopes of Cs are "easy" (to those who know how to do it) to separate from fuel rods. It has a low melting point.

http://education.jlab.org/itselemental/iso055.html

In answer to the question re monitoring fallout, the AEC and US Military constantly monitored fallout in the US and world wide. From Trinity onward there were various monitoring studies. Project Gabriel was the first longer range study of fallout. Out of that came Projects AUREOLE (a shorter range study). Gabriel was reviewed in 1949 and in 1952 a further report was written which describes the need and means by which Project Sunshine came to be. Project Sunshine remained classified for many years, it ended in I think about 1973. In the fifties there were permanent radiation fallout stations located throughout the US, one source gives the figure as 68. They used the "sticky paper" method of fallout collection.

Today the EPA states there are 200 than radiation monitoring stations in the US as part of a program called RadNet. This took over from a program called ERAMS which commenced in 1973. (date seems to comply with end of Project Sunshine.) Earlier, from 1956 there was the RAN project which had 68 permanent monitoring stations in US.
http://www.epa.gov/enviro/html/erams/milestones.html
It must be noted that whenever an AEC or DOD nuclear event took place, those orgs had a direct involvement in monitoring fallout/contamination. The US Army maintained at least 1,500 troops who's sole role was radiological monitoring. (Radiac Troops, Canada also having a large contingent.) Theit role including monitoring fallout generally, training - both military and Civil Defence.
http://www.epa.gov/enviro/html/erams/overview.html Early on of course, only the military had a role in fallout monitoring. The Navy used its own specialised maritime radiation detectors, and trained its own radiac personnel.

Periodically the AEC released reports on fallout in the United States. These are now declassified.

Heres the google description of one such report and the link to the pdf document
PDF]
Report 6: Revised Fallout Estimates for 1964-1965 and Verification ...
File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - View as HTML
estimates of the levels of fallout expected in 1964 and. 1965 from the atmospheric testing of ... The deposition of fallout in the United States in 1963 ...
www.epa.gov/rpdweb00/docs/federal/frc_rpt6.pdf

Point is, the Florida Cesium Event would have been monitored and noted. Military personnel wearing dosimeters and using detectors at the time would have noted it. The control of such information came from a central point in those days. The AEC and the military worked closely together.
Peppered throughout the history of both military and civilian radiation monitoring programs is secrecy and the exclusion of those who would speak out.

Had anyone spoken out about the Florida Cesium Event in the 50s, the consequences would have been severe. The movies Blue Sky and Night Breakers esp are realistic portrayals of the constraints placed upon subordinates who were in the know.

Shot Smoky is a famous contamination event. http://stinet.dtic.mil/oai/oai?verb=get ... =ADA103828
There is an absolute ocean of information out there about the radiological
monitoring of the US. The data re the Florida Cesium Event is no doubt out
there too.

Thing is, I dont see why a radioactive isotope of Cesium would have to be used by Brown for his purposes ie his craft. The stable non radioactive Cesium 133 has exactly the same chemical properties as the radioactive Cesium isotopes. They are the same element. And that means their chemical reactions are just the same. There are many ways to ionise an element. One is by ionising radiation, another is by use of an electric field.

The Florida event used a radioactive isotope of Cesium. Probably to mimic an ion field as would be found in the ionosphere. They wanted to know what the ion cloud would look like on radar close up before doing it at high altitude. It was probably a calibration test. Thats all from me except if anyone wants more background then there is this book;

[PDF]
SECRET FALLOUT
File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat
book, Secret Fallout: Low-Level Radiation from Hiroshima to Three Mile Island,. is an important new contribution to that debate and should be required ...
www.ratical.org/radiation/SecretFallout/SF.pdf

[kevin.b]

Would it not make more sense if they were trying to find a method of revealing any craft that were not showing up on radar?
Given the timeframe involved, both East and West will have been desperate to stay ahead of the other.
If an artificial shield was been tested, then any puncture of that shield would show up on a different detecting device other than radar.

As with anything accidents and unseen events occur, if something like that did occur, then Dr Brown may have felt driven to rectify it as much as possible.
Or if they actualy felt that we were under possible invasion, then again a non stop push to detect them would have seemed all important.
Something of the above seems more probable to have kept him away for so long.
I doubt very strongly that any fuel is involved with operating in universal travel, that would lead to explosions I believe, you need to be going with the flow, not thrusting against it.
And anything made here will always be here, unless you shield it within a device that can mimick whatever other parallel universe you wish to observe, and observe is all you may be able to do?
kevin