Its interesting that the Caroline Group and the CIA were a suitable mix. The two flow in and out of the text about Morgan regularly.grinder wrote:Maybe you guys can tell that I have been interested in figuring out the character of this " Caroline Group" and this is what I have puzzled out so far. .....
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With original ideas that have National Security implications - even from a purely economic viewpoint alone sometimes - when the inventor isnt cleared to a level that would permit the inventor to retain control the finished product, then at a certain point, the knowledge is retained by government and restricted. But it still mass produced in industrial plants with sufficient security clearance and over sight. And I think thats where Intelligence and Industry have to interface.
There has to be an interface between the government and industry, and maybe the Caroline Group was is one such entity. And its role adapted to what was the order of the day, though it had sufficient clout to act on its own within limits.
That Brown was cleared to a high level is evidenced by the places he worked. So being cleared, he wasnt the problem, it was those around him who werent that presented the problem.
I am waiting to see what eventuated in the economic circumstances of Dr Brown to cause his impoverishment in his latter years. If there is merit in his major project, at some point he seems to have been squeezed out.
To cite an example: When the US commenced the Manhattan Project, it took over Crocker Labs, which until that time under Lawrence, had worked on nuclear medicine via Lawrence's cyclotron. Radio Iodine, Radio Phosphorous and Strontium 89. etc. The MP cut the medical funding and suppressed until 1953 (M Brucer) all of the prewar civilian radioisotope work where that work involved r isotopes created or induced by the bomb. The knowledge came under the security blanket. Once the National Security needs were met, the restriction was lifted. But the individuals who did the original research work and who made their living from that were out of the loop. (with exceptions, such as Lawrence and Brucer etc, because Groves ordered that physics and medicine be kept separate under the MP to compartmentalise the knowledge, so doctors with nuclear physics training ie Pecher, were a no no unless they were hand picked). And cut they were cut off. Sr89 as a treatment was "rediscovered" in 1973. But Pecher's work at creating it in the Crocker Cyclotron and successfully shrinking bone tumours with it in humans happened between 39-42. At Pechers funeral in 1942 Lawrence wrote Pechers obiturary which was published in "Science". Pecher was young. Sr89 is a major fission fallout product as it turns out. Much greater immediate impact than Sr90. And the fission product cross sections were secret of course. Had to be, or else there was a risk of the enemy using the information for its benefit.
GE didnt mass produce and market Metastron (Sr89 Chloride) until the 80's. Though the knowledge was about 40 years old by that stage.
The work of the MP was eventually mass produced by Sandia Labs, now a pty company as I understand it.
Brown was working on his project until when, the 70s? If it is released openly in my life time I'll be lucky, but no doubt those who will be needed to roll it out already know enough to be able to get going on it in at least a general sense when called upon to do so. Its called the military/industrial complex by Ike.
At some point there will a "Sandia Corp" for Browns work. If there isnt already. The Caroline Group was headed by people who were either heavy duty industrialists or were in Intelligence or both, from my reading of the personnel. It was an interface unit.
At one point Teflon might have been secret. Now its openly mass produced. Its not restricted to NASA anymore.