Chaper 49: Man On The Floor!

[LongboardLOVELY]

Paul,
I forgot to comment on one thing...

I am very glad you put in that bit about the hurricane. Shows that you are a gifted writer. Anyone who has doubts as to the veracity of your subject matter cannot have any difficulty looking up the information about Hurricane Betsy...

LOVELY

[Victoria Steele]

grinder,

You are one scarey dude. You don't actually think someone would have tried to get to Linda Brown because of her Dads work? Wouldn't the fear have been more over kidnapping or something like that? It doesn't make too much sense for any opposing agency ( I am assuming Russians, who else might have had it out for Dr. Brown?) and covering such a terrible act in something that would be diagnosed as the result of an illness .... boy, thats really sinister.

I don't want to buy into that cause it is just too scarey. If that had been the case though I can certainly see why her Dad wouldn't have said anything about her " coding" as LindaB so professionally put it. But I don't think I would have allowed her to stay there either, if I were Dr. Brown. I would want her home where better security might be available. And right away. It doesn't make sense that she would be allowed to return to her dorm to " rest"

And I don't think that Morgan would hav let her stay either. As chickenshit as he could be about expressing his emotions for her ( read the " Do you love me Panic of 65 "epic to get my meaning (Chapter 36).

And you guys are right. There was no 911 system. Maybe Linda Brown can someday tell us more about what she remembered about " going unconcious". It is disturbing though LindaB, your comment about an "underlying condition" and it sort of makes me wonder.

LindaB , you obviously know quite alot about this subject. Are you a Doctor? Would there have been something available to the Russian nasties to duplicate the sort of problem that she showed. All I can think about now is the latest James Bond thriller ..... where he has a "heart attack". What might have been in the arsenal in 1965? I don't really want to consider the possibilities but its sort of like a car wreck. Its hard not to look! Victoria

[Mikado14]

And I don't think that Morgan would hav let her stay either. As chickenshit as he could be about expressing his emotions for her ( read the " Do you love me Panic of 65 "epic to get my meaning (Chapter 36).

I joined this forum sometime in August and prior to that I read all the chapters and read through the forums and every time I have tried to, and even a minute ago, I can't go to Chapter 36. Well, if I can't get in there, how in the hell is everybody else?

It's got to be the langoliers.....yeah, that's it, the langoliers!

Mikado

[Paul S.]

every time I have tried to, and even a minute ago, I can't go to Chapter 36. Well, if I can't get in there, how in the hell is everybody else?

Everybody else has the secret decoder ring.

Here's yours, Mikado:

https://www.ttbrown.com/defying_gravity/36_panic65.html

I fixed all the links, too, so, now everybody's got the decoder ring.

--PS

[Paul S.]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... F_2002.jpg

Those are so cute!

That looks like a newer model. By about 40 years. I suspect the model that Twigsnapper is referring to looks more like this:





http://www.capecodbritishcarclub.org/Ca ... MGB-GT.jpg

[Mikado14]

Morris Garages, Linda ... thats what MG stands for and I guess when you decide that you like them, that feeling sort of sticks with you. I drove an MG FT when escorting Dr. Brown around in London and he just about froze me out because he wouldn't let me put the flipping top up.

Still have the car by the way.

Two things Mr. Twigsnapper, are you sure that the model isn't MG TF? And if it is, I know what I want for Christmas, Santa.

Oh yeah, those flaired front fenders, those bug eyed headlights, suicide doors,,,, you have taste. Is it original? '54?
Mikado

[twigsnapper]

Sometimes my fingers go faster than my mental fact check. You are right of course. TF .... but I was lucky to get a 1953. People (the later buying public) didn't much like it, sadly enough, but it always suited me. Bug in your teeth type driving you know. floorboards that floated when you forded something, 1446 cc ... which was a bit more than previous but you still had to wind the thing up pretty hard ... and keep it there. The company introduced my little car at the Motor Show but this style suffered I think mainly because the Triumph TR2 was introduced at the same show and took most of the thunder.

But you know, once you are in love............ You sound like a prospective suitor!

The later MGB GT still gets 30 mpg. and, I have a good mechanic, which is something I'll bet you wouldn't have to worry about. <g> twigsnapper

[wdavidb]

At the top of the thread page there are links to the book, the chapters....

Talking about Dr. Brown's fingers.........different versions, different stories, and an unknown person feeding information through another....all very strange.

But, is it not understandable?

Does anyone on this forum really understand what they have bitten into?

Secrets are kept if it is necessary they remain secret, regardless of all other considerations.........no ifs or buts and certainly no maybes.

We assume that time allows disclosure, through the various avenues of access to freedom of information........only if the information no longer requires classification in order that it be protected by law.

Perhaps this is the case with the work of Dr. Brown, as it is possible that it is just too sensitive to be revealed. I have no way to know for sure, but I would not be surprised if this turned out to be the case.

So instead of getting the real scoop you get bits and pieces of a story intended to make you think you know something close enough to the truth to be accepted as the real thing without giving any secrets away.

Just a thought...........David

[Paul S.]

That would be the acronym for "No Shit, Sherlock..."

I'm all over the board today... feeling a bit more like myself than I did yesterday and trying to sort my way though some of the stuff that got posted while I was doing the Family Dance in Dallas over the long weekend... suddenly I find myself looking at this one...

Does anyone on this forum really understand what they have bitten into?

That's an interesting question. I wonder: is it purely rhetorical, or do you think you have an answer to that question that eludes the rest of us? Feel free to enlighten us in whatever way you think we're ready for.

So instead of getting the real scoop you get bits and pieces of a story intended to make you think you know something close enough to the truth to be accepted as the real thing without giving any secrets away.

Well now, that certainly defines the horns of the dilemma that I've been jousting with for entirely too long. I can recall a couple of instances where I was told "you have all you need to write the book," which I took to mean "you have all anybody's going to give you...." -- which has proven to be a long way from any kind of coherent, easy-to-assemble story.

Not that I'm complaining, mind you (I think Las Vegas got me passed that); but there certainly remains a fog of intrigue around this story, even when we think we're getting some kernel of truth at the bottom of it.

And at the heart of the story is subject matter that is so esoteric that it's very easy to get derailed into a lot of jargon loaded mystic mumbo-jumbo about quantum fields and tachyon pulsar particles and time-warp continua, ad nauseum, ad infinitum, just long enough to make us forget that... we still don't REALLY have THE story.

Maybe we have A story... but, as you've observed, quite possibly not THE story.

What was it Morgan said, quoting Buffett.... "Only Time Will Tell...."

--PS

[wdavidb]

Paul, happy new year to you, its just hours away.

No, I don't know The Story, but I think I know what The Story is about.

So, to try and sum it up without getting lost in the details, I would suggest the work of Dr. Brown is critical to our basic concepts of thought, in relation to the manner in which we view our world, the universe and everything in between.

If you change the character of those basic concepts you change the entire landscape and nothing is ever quite the same again. So the whole idea of so many secrets remaining secret is to prevent a change in the landscape and a change in our basic concepts of thought.

This of course is off-set by a continuous flood of new and interesting information which acts as a distraction to the basic issue at hand, which is this little matter of those things considered most secret.

We might ask then, what is it that should be considered so important that all but those who need to know should even be aware that such secret information exists?

Many would say, wait a minute, it would be impossible to keep something this big a secret for very long, because someone is eventually going to talk.

What if they did, who is going to believe them? And who would be daring enough to support them, as to do so would at the least bring an end to their career in terms of credibility and at worst an end to their life by some unfortunate mishap.

So the sixty-four million dollar question is; what's the big secret?

Should we start the clock now, counting down?

[Victoria Steele]

So Paul,

What do you think THE story is? Seems to me that you are quite sure that whatever you have been working on is not IT. But then, what is IT?

Its kind of an odd observation but I can sense that you are continuing to dig and dig and dig for what you think is THE story. Meanwhile ....... you seem to be writing it! Without realizing it! Do you see that? So " Only Time Will Tell?" Perhaps the time that it takes you to get to the end of this effort. When you look back over it, will it be THE STORY?

Strikes me that you are the only one who is going to know if it is or not!

Frankly. I am having a real good time with what you are writing so far and if it just continues the way it has, with plenty of interesting details and a whole lot of heart. Why, thats enough for me! But you? Victoria

[Paul S.]

I can sense that you are continuing to dig and dig and dig for what you think is THE story. Meanwhile ....... you seem to be writing it! Without realizing it! Do you see that? So "Only Time Will Tell?"

A lot of fiction writers profess that they don't know where their story is going, that they write it to find out. It's fascinating to see the same process at work in a non-fiction story. But you are exactly right, it's precisely that desire to find out what's at the bottom of the rabbit hole that keeps me digging. And like I keep saying... we'll all find out together.

--PS

[Paul S.]

I would suggest the work of Dr. Brown is critical to our basic concepts of thought, in relation to the manner in which we view our world, the universe and everything in between....

If you change the character of those basic concepts you change the entire landscape and nothing is ever quite the same again. So the whole idea of so many secrets remaining secret is to prevent a change in the landscape and a change in our basic concepts of thought.

This of course is off-set by a continuous flood of new and interesting information which acts as a distraction to the basic issue at hand, which is this little matter of those things considered most secret.

David, I confess I have a hard time following a lot of the other stuff you've written here, but this post I think is right on the money. It's a very enlightening and illuminating thought.

Which I will take to my pillow now.

G'night.

--PS

[Trickfox]

So the sixty-four million dollar question is; what's the big secret?

That is what YOU have to figure out all by yourself. Are "you" a bunch of atomic particles, molecules, and flesh, .....or are you perhaps really a type of holographic "Mitogenic Radiation" patern living in a Quantum ghost world that "you think" is reality.

Is that a nut shell explanation or what Elizabeth?
OK get the aspirin.... I know, but David does it to me with his non-linear linear increasing decreasing contradictions. His sentences are a chain of Godël thoerems, but they sure are Elegant, so I figure I'll just follow them towards a new idea that we will both discover at the same time.

Grinder, it's time to change the string here don't you think?

Trickfox

[LongboardLOVELY]

LindaB , you obviously know quite alot about this subject. Are you a Doctor? Would there have been something available to the Russian nasties to duplicate the sort of problem that she showed. All I can think about now is the latest James Bond thriller ..... where he has a "heart attack". What might have been in the arsenal in 1965? I don't really want to consider the possibilities but its sort of like a car wreck. Its hard not to look! Victoria

Victoria!
Happy New Year! 20 minutes to go here.
I am not a medical doctor. I have a PharmD, doctor of pharmacy. I trained in the Intensive Care Units, and Pediatrics, and am now working in ambulatory care/cardiology.
When I was in school, I had a great interest in the subjects of Toxicology (specifically Poisons and Antidotes) and Criminal Justice.

I don't think Linda Brown was poisoned. But I do wonder what would have made her that ill. If she were (and I am not saying she was), it could have been any number of things: Potassium, Digitalis, Insulin...
If they didn't have to do blood tests or wasn't thinking in that direction, they wouldn't have known. And excessive amounts of exogenous Insulin or Potassium would be difficult to detect in 1965.

LBL