The Parallel Universe

Continuing with the retired U.T. professor charged with conspiracy of sensitive data, his site appears to have less material on it than this site here which has been around for years. But J.L. Naudin is French and I guess it would be hard for the USA to prosecute...



Take a look at this craft on his site:


If I didn't already have a project to finish, this would be fun and easy to build. I wonder how much thrust one could get with one of these? It would be neat to build a rig like TTB's flying disks and use this plane instead.

OK, I just checked one of the J.L. Naudin's links and he linked to the University of Tennessee Plasma Physics Department. On that site, I found this report which is dated 2003 and discusses an Air Force contract. This is the Final Report but it is listed as Unclassified. But look at what is in it:
http://plasma.ee.utk.edu/~plasma/publi/AFOSR_report.pdf

And the plasma panel looks like a double sided printed circuit board with only the top side etched. The wind tunnel tests are very interesting. Grab a copy of the report before things disappear!

Also, check out the videos:
http://plasma.ece.utk.edu/video/

I wonder how much ozone is produced with this plasma panel?

MagicBill
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P.S. I just checked Roth's biography and he's been busy:
http://plasma.ee.utk.edu/staff/roth.pdf

Trickfox wrote:http://www.atmosphericglow.com/applicat ... mics2.html

This is technology that was being compromised by the good proffesor's efforts

Not that this technology has T.T. Brown's signature all over it.

Plasma flow control, actuators and flight control surfaces. Heavy influences by dialectric materials etc.
Specially this page:
http://www.atmosphericglow.com/applicat ... mics4.html
Does anyone else here see a patern?

Trickfox and Amelie, impressive. Hadn't heard the term 'plasma actuator' before but darned if that doesn't look familiar. I've read the Jean-Louis Naudin glow-discharge plasma stuff of course but that was several years ago. Didn't see what the connection was, thought it was just a silly kids' toy for making fake saucers that glow.

But obviously the boys in black are interested in it enough to consider it secret...

Nate,

You misunderstood. The glow discharge is from Naudin's site and I posted the picture. But if you go to the links for Prof. Roth's UTK site, you'll see the plasma actuator panels look similar but they appear to be like an etched double sided printed circuit board. Only the top side is etched and the bottom is solid copper.

But we have seen the alternating pattern before on this forum.

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Fig. 1

But the professors bottom panel is solid copper like this:

---"""---"""---"""---"""---
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Fig. 2

I do not know if the professor would get a better effect with Figure 1 rather than Figure 2 which he is using now.

MagicBill

htmagic wrote:Nate,

You misunderstood. The glow discharge is from Naudin's site and I posted the picture. But if you go to the links for Prof. Roth's UTK site, you'll see the plasma actuator panels look similar but they appear to be like an etched double sided printed circuit board. Only the top side is etched and the bottom is solid copper.

But we have seen the alternating pattern before on this forum.

Have we? Hmm. I don't know what you're referring to, but I was just looking at the strong similarities between the Atmospheric Glow Technologies website and the JLN one: the parallel lines of plasma tubes and the vortices between them, with propulsion occuring sideways to the vortices. I haven't personally seen that configuration before on this site.

Natecull

I remember reading the article a while ago with the multiplate-drawing mentioned has these words in it. "a cone-shaped electrode and an annular-shaped one" , I think it was posted by trickfox

The second drawing above looks like the magnetic wall thing the russians were working on.

Have a look at any stuff you can find on Fran DeAquino, its mostly about "charging of matter" and related weight loss.
Also have at look at the Searl rotational permanent magnet ring device, google vid.


regards
arc

Arc,

You are correct. Trickfox did post that article. And for the rest that are looking for it, look right here:
https://www.ttbrown.com/forum/viewtopic. ... 6925#p6925

Nate, you are right that there are similarities between the glow discharge of the UT site and Naudin's site. They both talk about the spinning vortices. And if you look at the picture of the Naudin craft, you can see the glow discharge in the rear that propels the craft forward. Naudin got a lot of his ideas apparently from the UT site and he references it as well.

MagicBill

arc wrote:
Have a look at any stuff you can find on Fran DeAquino, its mostly about "charging of matter" and related weight loss.

Perhaps you might wish to look at this as well:

http://www.blazelabs.com/f-deaquino.asp

Mikado

Mikado

Thats interesting, the last section about the current required will need investigating. I remember reading something a few years ago on the Naudin site about the earlier version of this device that was torroid shaped and he mentioned the potential for large applied current being required. ....( random thought.... what about using superconductors??)


regards
arc

arc wrote:
....( random thought.... what about using superconductors??)

Editorial note: ....( a thought.... what about using superconductors??)

Mikado

PS: There are more natural ways to what you mention, of that, I am sure

http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/pete ... _leap.html

Yes indeed..... the first page of this thread is where things really started to coallesce for many of us.

I suppose the adventure continues but what about after we conquer space launches...?

Who will want to go anywhere so isolated unless we could find something worth going there for.

We need another reason to migrate away from Earth other than the usual- "Because it's our destiny" answer.

We need to use telepresence to rapidly explore all that can be achieved NOW.

Are we ourselves being influenced by telepresence of a foreign kind?

A few questions from someone trying to think out of the box

[quote="Trickfox"]http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/pete ... _leap.html

Dear Trickfox ,

I watched Diamandis,

A cool dude who looks like a car salesman .

I very much like the new space toy, an orbital sports car par exemplare.

Unfortunately "Diamond Heads" political philosophy is not really up to scratch , he is actually PLEASED that super rich are now able to afford 20 million for a quick space jaunt.

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/storypage.as ... yId=130269

His choice of terminology is a bit off as well ,"planetary redundancy", huh .. what about the poor mortals with feet of clay?

Furry mammal entrepreneurs and military/industrial dinosaurs might populate DM's fairly redundant planet but for most of us the world is still full of human beings , well it was last time I checked .

The philosophy behind space development is given as , and this is ACCEPTABLE right ?

GREED -collecting mineral wealth
FEAR- asteroid will hit us , I expect climate change is in there somewhere as well , although no mention was made
( I guess he thinks it is a fairy story)
WEALTH -also greed, mineral wealth again .

How about a few other motivations for space development , such as COMPASSION , WORLD PEACE , and human entitlement to food, water, education and all necessities of life , not to mention CARE of our beautiful and irreplaceable human environment.

Diamandis wants the self loading carbon units ( people ) to expand his limitless space horizons , but why does he have to use such dehumanizing analogies ? This people powered market will now drive down the costs of orbital space flight to $100 from $20,000,000 , Yikes, so then we will ALL be afford the cut price Costco package for a quick whizz round the planet , great to have something really fun to look forward too !

X prize is now focusing for " radical breakthrough in space and other technologies to benefit humanity"

Do you think my treaty would qualify ?

I did look at X prize pages and there is a box to fill in , but it seems that it is more to suggest a prize category than to a claim a prize for oneself . Still the X prize might be interested in setting up a race for best space treaty ever .

I thought there might be a lot of competition four years ago , space treaties popping up all over the place , but no sign of any competition so far, just me and a couple of other loners from way before. No money in it I guess .
( Did you see the film "rat race" with John Cleese, very funny )

Anyway I hope Diamandis is reading this, lurking somewhere on the secretive VIP fringes of the forum .

If he is I send him warm greetings and a personal message.

Diamandis - You are actually quite good looking and/or well intentioned , I suggest you ignore all of the above which was written only to enlighten my friend Trickfox and just give me the largest possible X prize immediately . Then we can all
( including my friend Trickfox ) go hang out for the Geneva Ratifications together with a whole lot of Kings and Princes and Presidents, all the most beautiful women in the world will be there and we can throw a huge party. I know you like parties , yes?

Kevin would enjoy that, he loves women and even dreams about them , that is when he is not dreaming about blood red mosquito larvae.

Love Amalie

[quote="Trickfox"]http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/pete ... _leap.html

This was what I watched , the video from Diamandis about X prize that you just posted, your link has gone peculiar now , it is still on your earlier mail . The one with the teleport.

Love Amalie

Amalie at Hangar One

Where is Hanger One ?

What type of exotic / unusual research was pursued there ?

Chris ,

Hangar One is at Moffett Field in Mountain View. It is part of the NASA Ames facility.

http://www.savehangarone.org/

It was constructed by the Air Force around 1932 to house a reconnaissance blimp, a large hydrogen fueled dirigible.

Nothing very exciting happened there so far, but I do have plans for something more interesting in the future .

Amalie