Townsend Brown 1936 and 1939. Georg Otto Erb 1945

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Over the months that we pored through her memories of life with Townsend, Linda Brown shared as many accounts as she could recall of family lore from the time before she was born. Some were stories she knows from her parents, some were relayed to her others who had reason to know.

She held a suspicion that it was no accident when her father lost his finger in a lathe “operated by another person". This event was reported to have happened at the Wise Foundry in Zanesville, on Christmas Eve of 1936. The Foundry specialized in building components for manufacturers of large electrical engines, but all that is known about Townsend’s activities there is that he was doing some experimental work for the US Navy.

The firm headquarters had burned down in February of that year, and intentionally, or unintentionally. the paper trail for this project was lost. (Intentionally, perhaps, because In addition to protecting all signals and codes, the Navy Security Command, created in 1935, was responsible for taking any steps needed to deny intelligence to enemy agents.)

In other news, from February, radium had been synthesized in the lab, for the first time ever, when Radium e (Bismuth 210) was created by the bombardment of bismuth with atomic particles.

Time Magazine, February 17, 1936. https://time.com/archive/6820798/science-radium-e/

Radium and its many isotopes would go on to play an outsized role in modern health care. Eldridge Johnson would fund a research center for their study at the University of Pennsylvania and John Trump would build a career on them.

On a lighter note, Townsend, too, seems to have been “playing around” with radium in 1935 and ’36. With Josephine as the producer of the Musical Revue Hospital Fundraiser, the Jorg Fasting dancers astounded the audience when the lights went down. All that could be seen of them were their hands and feet, glowing in the dark.

Townsend and Fasting, a Norwegian-American WW I Vet, may have also been part of an intelligence network with tentacles reaching into Norway, and Germany. The sole supplier of the heavy water necessary for the production of fissile atomic was a Norwegian hydroplant and it was important to know where the shipments went.

But side from its uses in health care and entertainment, somewhere along the line, someone discovered that radium-beryllium isotopes emitted a neutron particle stream with enough energy to split an atom. The challenge would be to apply this into a detonation device.


Fast forward to 1939:

As part of a major intelligence coup, the Allies received a inside information about the most advanced research projects being funded by the Wehrmacht. This was haul was achieved with the assistance of Norwegian intelligence, and the resulting Oslo Report is said to have played a significant role in the outcome of the war. The operation also landed a proximity switch from one of the German mines then wreaking havoc on commercial shipping.

Smyth/Smythe (Gone Dark) says that in 1939, Townsend organized a secret mission to retrieve a German mine. I think these two accounts are describing the same thing. Linda has told me that the man Townsend was to vet in Germany was someone he knew from a prior covert mission overseas. For this reason, I also believe that it was during this 1939 mission that Townsend first met the scientist he would see again in 1945..

We do not know who that man was, but a case can be made that it was Georg Otto Erb. Erb was a tremendously important player in Nazi science. He was a physicist with his own instrumentation design lab before the war, and his work at the time included “high tension apparatus” or electrical equipment designed to handle or generate very high voltages, typically exceeding 1,000 volts AC or 1,500 volts DC.

He was inducted into the military in 1940, but subsequently released and directed to focus his work on armaments, which he did, developing a great many types of detonation devices, using a variety of of proximity switches and batteries. He contributed to the V-2 rocket program, and had come up with the design of the two stage rocket motor, when he was arrested in 1944 on suspicion of favoring the enemy and sabotage. He managed to escape in April, 1945, in the pandemonium created by the advancing Russian troops.

Interrogation of Dr. George Otto Erb: Maria Veen A 5660 Near Coesfeld
Electrical Detonators-types of Fuzes
By D. Carmichael · 1945

https://www.google.com/books/edition/In ... CAAJ?hl=en


He is known today as the father of the thermal battery which is widely used in the manufacture of munitions warheads, and of the molten salt battery which may provide grid level energy storage. But I find no record of his activities after his initial interview at Coesfeld. Nor does his name appear in the roles of the Paperclip scientists who were brought to the United States.

It is possible that he was ultimately captured by the Russians. It is also possible that he was killed in the attack which resulted in Townsend’s wounding. For now he remains a mystery man.

But, In the weird shadow language that haunt this story, one of Erb’s assistants was named Charles Buhler. Yes, the same name, but unless he has found the fountain of youth, not the same Charles Buhler of recent fame for creating an electrocstatic, propellantless propulsion drive.

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Jan Lundquist wrote: Tue Apr 22, 2025 7:49 pm Linda has told me that the man Townsend was to vet in Germany was someone he knew from a prior covert mission overseas. For this reason, I also believe that it was during this 1939 mission that Townsend met the scientist he was to vet in 1945.

We do not know who that man was, but I believe a case can be made for Georg Otto Erb.
Which 'man that Townsend was to vet' are we actually talking about here?

Are you talking about the 'pear-shaped' mission in Germany after he parachuted into Germany near the end of World War II?

Because (checks book he wrote himself) according to the account I got from Boston / O'Riley / Twigsnapper, that individual didn't survive the ambush:
“A German soldier opened the door and stepped back. A man behind a table reached for something that he was going to hand to Dr. Brown, but the kid had stepped in by then and his senses went into overload. He drew and fired.
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In the next instant a firefight erupted in the farmhouse, with German sentries adding fire from the periphery. When the shooting stopped, the German scientist – dressed as a common soldier – and three of the Americans including the radio operator were all dead.”


So that individual could not have been Georg Otto Erb, who lived until 1972.

Are we talking about another 'vetting' episode that I haven't covered?

Curiously (?) there is not a lot else to find online about Erb. I consulted my Mystic Oracle (ChatGPT, now a female agent named 'Quil') and this is all she could find:
Georg Otto Erb was a German physicist and engineer active during World War II. He is notably recognized for developing molten salt batteries intended for military applications. Although these batteries were not deployed before the war’s end, British Intelligence documented the technology, and the United States later adopted it for use in artillery fuses . 

Following the war, Erb was interrogated by Allied forces. A report titled Interrogation of Dr. George Otto Erb: Maria Veen A 5660 Near Coesfeld: Electrical Detonators-types of Fuzes details his involvement in the development of electrical detonators and various types of fuzes, including those for V-2 rockets and other munitions . 

Unfortunately, specific details about Erb’s birthplace, residences, and the full extent of his post-war activities are not readily available in the provided sources.
So... isn't that interesting??

So who was the scientist that O'Riley says was killed in the ambush? Does it matter?

And what additional 'vetting' episode are we talking about here?

While I'm at it... it has come to my attention that the 'high voltage scientist' that O'Riley and Twigsnapper retrieved with the aid of Hans Von Luck in a Russian POW camp was more than likely NOT Richard Miethe. I've taken a closer look at Miethe's bio and it does not dovetail nicely with the account I put in the book.

So what else is new?

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Paul, yes, i am discussing Townsends post war mission, in which, we have been told, the scientist was killed. Linda has said that Townsend was the only person who could vet that the man was who he claimed to be, because he was the only man who knew his face.

It has been said that proximity switches were the third greatest secret research project of the war, after radar and the atomic bomb. Nothing, not torpedoes, bombs, mines, nor rockets will explode at the distance for achieving optimal damage without a proximity switch. For example, A radar altimeter would serve as the last and final proximity switch for Little Boy and Fat Man.

According to oral histories from CalTech faculty, the construction of the detonation circuits that were activated by that switch were so delicate that only Ph.Ds were qualified to build them. This is the reason why half the CalTech rocket faculty was carved off and sent to China Lake Naval weapons center. One member of that group said they looked forward to working on the occaisional project from Professor Smythe's as those were the most interesting and challenging assignments.

As you can see, from Erb's preliminary interview at Coesfeld, he was aaalll over proximity switches, fuses, and batteries. But I have found only two mentions of the name, post WW II...one for patent for a battery, which seems to me to describe a battery created 30 years earlier.

And far more recently, a Georg Otto Erb who co-authored a paper about Quaternions. I think he said you could throw one of them out, but maybe I got that from Nate who seems to have a love/hate relationship with them.

Anyway, I will take Erb for the scientist in the pear-shaped mission, but assume that he did indeed die in the shootout. So who is a good Not-Miethe candidate for the Sarbacher/Twigsnapper rescue?

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But, In the weird shadow language that haunt this story, one of Erb’s assistants was named Charles Buhler. Yes, the same name, but unless he has found the fountain of youth, not the same Charles Buhler of recent fame for creating an electrocstatic, propellantless propulsion drive.
I misremembered. The assistant was George Buhler.

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In the forest there are many paths... Slowly slowly some are becoming evident.

Patience, diligence and an eye for the occasional out of place twig, the regular cycling of dappled light through the canopy of trees, above the leaf, below the leaf, things are not the same… such is the way.
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Hello, Sweet Arc, it is so good to see your Zen poet self here. I am looking forward to hearing what you have been up to in the intervening years!
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I wondered if that was the same "Arc."

I guess so.

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Welcome back.

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Jan Lundquist wrote: Fri Apr 03, 2026 6:50 pm Hello, Sweet Arc, it is so good to see your Zen poet self here. I am looking forward to hearing what you have been up to in the intervening years!
Hello Rose. It is hard to believe so much time has passed since I was last here. It is especially interesting to note the world wide development of tools and technology that "coincidentally ?" relate back to the founding works of TTB.

In the interests of "Public" information, I am pleased to see the gradual emergence of current engineering interests by Dr Charles Buhler. He is actively prototyping and achieving increasing degrees of success as he modifies his designs. His strategically focused evolutionary methodology of create/test/alter "prototyping" will eventually lead him and his team to find the alternate pathways that emerge from the principles. This tree has multiple branches and each branch has its own interesting elements...

I was following the works of Harold White "Sonny" formerly of NASA. His approach to the topic was "back then" focused on the interactions of his version of devices with the immediate locality "space-time" interactions. He went private and I gather has since gone dark. Interesting times ahead...

There are/were some Europeans also looking into variations of the concepts and achieving results.

I had to dig through some old hard drives (and put them back into the research machines to find the data files) to find something that had been on my mind. I finally found the info and I think we are looking at a "'remarkably similar" set of outcomes. Rose I think I mentioned I was looking for that doc originally created by Kitselman... [ And I note we have a new person here Suzette Kitselman, Welcome Suzette.. ]

Historically speaking I think I posted this info "somewhere amongst the multitude of forums that came and went all those years ago"
Two versions of a proposed equation because I am not sure which is technically the more correct one as they were my derivations from the word description by Kitselman. Perhaps neither is correct and I am just stumbling in the dark.?. But having said that there is "some form of equation" and Dr Buhler is also looking to derive it... and personally I suggest more than one equation is required as there are different and distinct manifestations of alterations/distortions emergent with the phenomena.

x-value -- 2.16*(e^(0.41*x)) -- 2.16*(e^0.41)*x
1 -- 3.222341347 -- 3.222341347
2 -- 4.807168406 -- 6.444682694
3 -- 7.171452553 -- 9.667024041
4 -- 10.69855004 -- 12.88936539
5 -- 15.96036117 -- 16.11170673
6 -- 23.81006098 -- 19.33404808
7 -- 35.52043703 -- 22.55638943
8 -- 52.99026523 -- 25.77873078

I hope this link to a google drive will work, if not I will have to find a way to post it somewhere

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1quUlEX ... sp=sharing

These "suggestions" by Kitselman have been on my mind for a long time. Now I know why, they have/share a root causality that appears to be part of the overall "effect", or at least one part of the effect as there are three ? that seem to emerge.

Works from a different source...

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1XPp5_6 ... sp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1HY02Pf ... sp=sharing

I personally think the technology is currently being actively hidden because it has both high military value and very disruptive business value on the global scale. We are looking at something that can be technologically engineered into specific configurations that achieve different desired outcomes. eg generation of electricity through utilising dedicated localised distortions of earths natural gravitational field ( goodbye Hydro and Nuclear) , adjusting the apparent "weight" of objects in real time (Transportation Systems.. cars, trucks, boats, planes, trains) ... we are in for some interesting times in the future...

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Paul Schatzkin wrote: Sat Apr 04, 2026 2:51 pm I wondered if that was the same "Arc."

I guess so.

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Thank you for your words and thank you for your continuing interest in this ongoing phenomenon

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ARC, you may have what we called back then, the Kittsleman equations. I recall seeing a copy of them in Linda’s archives. I think Mikado had a copy as well. iIRC he referred to them as guage transformations.

I can’t swear yours and his and Linda’s are all the same. I was in the back of the room when math brains were passed out, but I remember being surprised by the brevity of the document I saw. I was expecting an elaborately worked out theorem, that would definitively explain the structure of space.

And I was reminded again, yesterday, about the difference between theorists and engineers. I
reading about Alfen and his contribution to the SoS topic. As an engineer he received little attention for his work in the beginning, but, ultimately it earned him a Nobel prize in 1970.

He was the first to coin the term electrohydrodynamics, but Townsend used it,to describe his work with The Fan, producing moving air from no moving parts. When Linda asked what answer she could give if her Grand Valley High mates asked his occupation, he said , tell them I work with electromagnetohydodynamics. (1963).

On another thread, Nate has pulled in some interesting postings by someone claiming to be an insider on the US antigravity program.

I love that Jesse Michaels has connected the Brown and Buhler dots but it may be that Charles Buhler is demonstrating only a tenth of what the real and tested technologies are.

I am convinced that the Black world hides secrets that are, capability-wise, 50 years ahead of what we see today.

Townsend thought he had found a force that could serve the triple functions of communication, navigation, and propulsion. I imagine a mishmash of the Biefeld Brown effect and Alfven Waves, seasoned with a sprinkling of sidereal radiation.

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Jan, I have to commend Jesse Michaels on his investigative attitude and dogged nature.

The more I think about the equations the more I realise they are incomplete/non-static/structurally variable and time dependent. I mean this in reference to the outcomes which will alter in relation to the physical structure of the device(s). Every significantly altered version will have/display its own "emergent properties". This is what Buhler will be finding during his prototyping exercises. It will be interesting to eventually see the shape of his data tree and what branches he "grows" to fruition over time. During the interview with Jesse they did mention that a patent Buhler has sought to create was "on hold" and likely due to potential National Security issues. This would eventually allow only the "toys" to be made public, which is fully understandable.

In the forest there are many paths... Slowly slowly some are becoming evident.

Just as the Kitselman equation (?) displays a "growth" in relation to input, we must consider what those inputs and outputs actually are. What do the numbers actually represent,
Are we talking
  • Gravitational Acceleration, G*x? (vectorial velocity increase, allowing for 3D x,y,z)
  • Newtons (Force)
  • Voltage (Energy, and this gets very murky very quickly as we delve into quantum layers)
  • Time based relationship ( Simple seconds based measurements or Space-time deformations as per Einsteins mass -curvature concepts)
  • Weight responses (Same mass but different gravitational response)
  • Inertial responses
  • Or ??.
I think Kitselman mentioned the numbers because he was publicly stating "There is something measurable there". In the words of Jesse Michels
There is a There ,There
He didnt delve into full on formal equation derivation because He/They/The Group were aware that many others were also watching, and waiting /hoping for "loose lips sink ships"...

I think I remember Natecull mentioning a desire to see a reproducible experiment to demonstrate one or more of the "effects", so as to start collecting data. [I just found nate's comment in to Tech Talk section]

As time passes the emergence of variations of this technology is being actively, and quietly, researched on a global scale. I think I read somewhere on this forum that perhaps that is why there has been a sudden interest in certain government circles in mentioning such things [ I attribute that to Nate ]. The idea that others may beat them to the punchline is something governments typically try to avoid.

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Hi arc! Glad to see you here.
think I read somewhere on this forum that perhaps that is why there has been a sudden interest in certain government circles in mentioning such things [ I attribute that to Nate ]. The idea that others may beat them to the punchline is something governments typically try to avoid.
I've been haunting the Reddit /r/ufos forum for a few years now and the idea that other nations - especially China - might be beating the USA to technologies based on "whatever it is", is definitely out there in the zeitgeist right now. Might be Lue Elizondo who's pushing this idea? Or Peter Thiel, who seems to be funding a lot of the current round of UFO / antigravity / "disclosure" talk?

I still recall though that about 10 years ago, Putin announced that he was going to resume work on "weapons based on new physical principles", which apparently were stopped by a circa 1975 treaty, so I wonder about Russia. See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_physi ... es_weapons

Note that 1975 was right about when the fringe group I keep haarping on about because they seem to overlap with retired Seventies Townsend, the US Psychotronics Association, became paranoid about potential Soviet breakthroughs in electromagnetics that could couple to the human mind or body. Tom Bearden particularly getting himself freaked out about various configurations of phase-conjugated microwave beams that could cause what he believed to be "scalar waves", and Andrija Puharich also getting worried about bio/psychic effects of ELF; I forget Puharich's exact timeline, should look it up. (Seems like he was researching ELF at least by 1978 - see this August 1980 edition of the Journal of Borderland Research, a scene that overlapped with USPA by then : https://iapsop.com/archive/materials/jo ... g_1980.pdf )

My read is that Bearden at least was very suspicious that the USSR would respect a treaty not to touch whatever the bad electromagnetics was, and thought they were outpacing the USA. He seems to have been wrong about that, since the Berlin Wall fell.

Whether "new physical weapons" are indeed what's bothering the Disclosure crowd, or something else entirely, I'm not sure.

The /r/ufos people, probably in their teens and twenties, of course think that "whatever it is" is self-evidently a Hollywood-standard crashed alien saucer, but I require a lot of convincing before I'll buy that. I *might* though buy that it could be tech artifacts produced by weird self-taught radio engineers who might as well think like aliens compared to college grads...

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ARC, you listed the range of possible measurement domains to which the Kitselman solutions might be applied. all of them probably fall within a “6 Degrees from Townsend Brown” circle, somehow.

We know he was fascinated by the time based variable that affected his piezoelectric detectors. But I think there is a good possibility that he was engineering variability into metamaterials as early as 1956.

This is purely hypothetical, but I believe that when Louis Witten said, a man named Townsend in France created metametal with weight responding to Lunar cycles, he was referring to some as yet unknown activity/outcome from Townsend’s 1956 Paris trip.

the subsequent story reported by old school, meticulous UFO archivist,Michael Swords, about Brown swooping in to take custody of a sample of space fall material, suggests to me that there was a natural progression of that development on into space technology. The report on the material, once in USN hands, was that it had a peculiar ability to induce temporary weight loss in nearby materials.

Back to Witten’s oral history, he also said something like a man named Brown from Indiana or some midwestern state claimed that an isotope of Bismuth would have antigravity properties. This may be a more tenuous leap, but the China Lake Naval Weapons lab has an adjunct organization located in Crane Indiana. If Bismuth is an isotope radium, is that relevant information?


Nate, speaking of the potential evils of psychotropics, in her own oral history, Elizabeth Rauscher said that she was withholding a set of powerful frequencies, to keep them out of official hands. If she found a particularly malefic set, I am sure they are known to someone by now.

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ARC, you listed the range of possible measurement domains to which the Kitselman solutions might be applied. all of them probably fall within a “6 Degrees from Townsend Brown” circle, somehow.

We know he was fascinated by the time based variable that affected his piezoelectric detectors. But I think there is a good possibility that he was engineering variability into metamaterials as early as 1956.

This is purely hypothetical, but I believe that when Louis Witten said, a man named Townsend in France created metametal with weight responding to Lunar cycles, he was referring to some as yet unknown activity/outcome from Townsend’s 1956 Paris trip.

the subsequent story reported by old school, meticulous UFO archivist,Michael Swords, about Brown swooping in to take custody of a sample of space fall material, suggests to me that there was a natural progression of that development on into space technology. The report on the material, once in USN hands, was that it had a peculiar ability to induce temporary weight loss in nearby materials.

Back to Witten’s oral history, he also said something like a man named Brown from Indiana or some midwestern state claimed that an isotope of Bismuth would have antigravity properties. This may be a more tenuous leap, but the China Lake Naval Weapons lab has an adjunct organization located in Crane Indiana. If Bismuth is an isotope radium, is that relevant information?


Nate, speaking of the potential evils of psychotropics, in her own oral history, Elizabeth Rauscher said that she was withholding a set of powerful frequencies, to keep them out of official hands. If she found a particularly malefic set, I am sure they are known to someone by now.

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Hello Nate
Good to hear from you
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natecull wrote: Fri Apr 10, 2026 10:08 am Hi arc! Glad to see you here.
think I read somewhere on this forum that perhaps that is why there has been a sudden interest in certain government circles in mentioning such things [ I attribute that to Nate ]. The idea that others may beat them to the punchline is something governments typically try to avoid.
I've been haunting the Reddit /r/ufos forum for a few years now and the idea that other nations - especially China - might be beating the USA to technologies based on "whatever it is", is definitely out there in the zeitgeist right now. Might be Lue Elizondo who's pushing this idea? Or Peter Thiel, who seems to be funding a lot of the current round of UFO / antigravity / "disclosure" talk?

I still recall though that about 10 years ago, Putin announced that he was going to resume work on "weapons based on new physical principles", which apparently were stopped by a circa 1975 treaty, so I wonder about Russia. See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_physi ... es_weapons
Your comments on the possible Russian experiments with electromagnetic effects on human physiology reminds me of the Havanah Syndrome that American diplomats etc suffered when in certain overseas postings. Apparently new technology has enabled scientists to determine it is definitely artificially generated electromagnetic in nature and can be aimed in beam format towards target(s).

You most likely have heard of the 5 observables mentioned by Lou Elizondo in reference to the observable craft of unknown origins flitting around the sky.
  • Instantaneous acceleration
  • Hypersonic velocity
  • Low observability
  • Trans-medium travel (Space, Air , Sea)
  • Anti-gravity
There is a sixth observable which was not initially mentioned but became public later when people began talking about the negative health impacts of relatively close encounter events with the craft.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1cfiC2n ... sp=sharing

It appears that simultaneous operation of multiple complex waveforms creates associated complex harmonics. Those original or harmonic frequencies have a negative impact on human tissues.

This also reminds me of the multiple mention by doctors during the Iraq war of both soldiers and civilians who turned up at hospitals or medical clinics with parts of their body burnt or literally burnt off. The wounds were not due to close proximity to explosions or chemical agents, it was very specific and narrow in impact, some metal objects inline with the movement of the “narrow beam” were also impacted, someone was using high power Lasers on the battlefield.

The Venezuela attack also involved some “new” type of weapon that involved sonic, light and physical impacts on the guards, resulting in some dying and others bleeding from the ears, mouth and nose and mass unconsciousness.

We are looking at the era of undisclosed weapons...
Bombs and bullets may become obsolete at some point in time.


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