How can anybody keep up.
I have a suggestion for your question Radomir. Kevin just gave it to us in one of his latest posts,
Radomir, you posted this|
" hadn't thought to ask before now, but unless Mr. Twigsnapper is feeling generous, anyone want to hazard a guess as to who the historical personage(s) might have been at the (visible or invisible) helm of the Caroline group before Blinker Hall? Immediately before would help with tracing a longer historical arc, but guesses or suppositions going even further back would be welcome. Do we have enough of a sense of the motivations and operational method of TCG to guess? Or might we assume that in previous eras it operated even further beneath the veil than it has in the past century?
And then kevin mentioned this, which I thought was really odd because the name Bergier seemed to reach up out of nowhere.
You asked how old? Might this fit?
"According to occult lore, the Nine Unknown Men are a two millennia-old secret society founded by the Indian Emperor Asoka c. 270 BCE. According to the legend, upon his conversion to Buddhism after a massacre during one of his wars, the Emperor founded the society of the Nine to preserve and develop knowledge that would be dangerous to humanity if it fell into the wrong hands. Some versions of the story include an additional motivation for the Emperor to conceal scientific knowledge: remnants of the Rama Empire, an Indian version of Atlantis, which according to Hindu scripture was destroyed by advanced weaponry 15,000 years ago.
Course, what happened to "remember the women?" grinder
Wow! So you think the Nine Unknown Men may be part or the core of the Caroline Group (TCG)? If they really are ETs, could they live that long? The Stargate series used to think so. The ETs there could climb into this sarcophagus and be rejuvenated and restored. Daniel Jackson used it on his former wife, Shari, when she died after Ra (the ET) killed her. He brought her back from the dead after he placed her in the sarcophagus and resurrected her. The ETs were originally the Egyptian gods but on earth the humans revolted and suppressed their gods and buried the Stargate. It was discovered in an archaeological dig. Anyway, the ETs could live for thousands of years as long as they spent periodic time in their sarcophagus machine but too much use made them mean, arrogant, and intent on others to worship him(/her!) as a god.
Have you ever read the book of Enoch? It is an apocryphal book which means it is not in a standard Bible but considered a "gnostic" work. But it is interesting the small book of Jude has a quote directly out of the book of Enoch. Enoch was not considered a viable book to keep in the Bible as it talked about the fallen angels, the Nepthalim, and how they took human women and the giants were spawned from them. Some might consider those fallen as ETs. I never saw one so I can't tell you what they look like.
Considering these fallen angels take human women and spawn children, I would assume they were all male. Are there any female angels in the Bible? We see pictures of female angels but in the Bible all I read was Lucifer (prince of the angels before his fall), Michael, Gabriel, Raphael, and the ones I read appeared to be male. But I'm sure you heard the old joke about assumptions that make an ass out of you and me (ass u me)!
As for groups, some say the Illuminati are tied with the Masons who had their beginnings with the Knights Templar. And then there is "the Secret" and also the jade tablet. So there are stories and myths that abound. Maybe TCG is some of them, maybe all of them. We were told that the people varied and I believe the group expanded and contracted in membership as required. I believe it was compartmentalized as discussed and only a select few knew the "entire picture". Just like on the Manhattan Project. A worked was asked what she was making and she responded $1.25 an hour! Ah, those were the good ol' days, eh? They were too far back for me to know but some will know what I'm talking about.
It doesn't matter really about speculating what the Caroline Group really is. If it is secret, it will remain secret no matter how long you or I can speculate. We do not have a "need to know" and they sure will not tell us, unless it suits their purpose. And even if they told one and denied it to all the rest, the one would seem like a raving lunatic. Just like they probably did to TT Brown, Tesla, Moray, Reich, Rife, and probably a good amount before and after their times... I think TT Brown knew how they operated so that is why he ran his own disinformation campaign to throw others off the real track. But that is speculation too. But I think once he did this, he could spend more time with his family and others would leave him alone... Again, pure speculation but it makes sense and I could see his motive for doing so.
The only ones any of us know that have/had connections to TCG were Mr. Twigsnapper and Morgan (but he's supposedly dead but that's what they said the first time so who knows?) God knows and that is whom I trust in. Does the "Universal Consciousness" know? Is it the same thing we call God? I do not know. Maybe that is the term we physical beings wish to describe to the "central nervous system (CNS) of the universe" for what is clearly considered a "spiritual" and not a scientific experience. We have to pin attributes on an invisible spirit (the aether?) that resides in a place called "heaven". It appears strange to some. But to "beam" thoughts from the mind into space to contact a god does not appear to attract the attention of many (if any) scientists. They would call it "mystical BS" and leave in their smug way. Or maybe tear your heart out and hand it back to you as was reported of Admiral "Blinker" Hall in Wikipedia. So if he was part of TCG, we know that some members were cold-hearted SOBs. But based upon Paul's story, apparently Dr. Brown was not. Apparently according to Linda when he took off his glasses then watch out! I think she saw this at Decker's lab...
Ramblings of another hobbit? Perhaps.
Perhaps the magician can morph into a hobbit or whatever he feels like...