Epilogue: The Sound of Time

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Mr. B. wrote:AM,

It is reported that Dan Marckus has a pot of fifty million pounds at his disposal, pot of GOLD?
Mhm, mmm, that's a lot of gold. A pot of gold at the end of a rainbow?

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Dr Brown escorted a large pot of gold out of England .
But is gold always just for a monetry exchange, or some other type of exchange?
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The other type of exchange look much more interesting.
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kevin.b wrote:Dr Brown escorted a large pot of gold out of England .
But is gold always just for a monetry exchange, or some other type of exchange?
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Mono-atomic gold (white powder gold) for DNA repair. Gold dust in the ionosphere. Gold wire in contacts and coils. Just a thought.

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If you look back in time, you may hear the sound of time.
If you check where gold is placed through all known time, its sort of X marks the spot, I check , and its still exactly the same spot, through time, makes you wonder if anything actually moves, in time?
http://www.stone-circles.org.uk/stone/normantondown.htm
http://www.celticnz.co.nz/Clandonwebsit ... ndon1a.htm
Gold , always placed precisely on X marks the spot.
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Mr. B. wrote:If you check where gold is placed through all known time, its sort of X marks the spot, I check , and its still exactly the same spot, through time, makes you wonder if anything actually moves, in time?
Mr. B., you did it again!

The reference to gold I'll have to chew on more thoroughly. But something else comes to mind.

WHAT IF NOTHING MOVES IN TIME, BUT TIME MOVES THROUGH EVERYTHING?

Time is nothing, but a self-crumpling piece of paper that continously crumples. And this in turn is nothing but SPACE.

Today again a whole batch of books found me in the library (yes, I do not look for books now so much anymore - I JUST ASK FOR WHAT I WANT TO KNOW AND THEN THE BOOKS CALL ME, THEY CALL ME). Among them a biography of Tesla. There a physicist (cannot recall the name) is quoted who says that Einstein simply subsitituted the material, static aether with the dynamically curved space-time.

This physicist then proposes something AMAZING - that Tesla's dynamic theory of gravity and Einstein's notion of space-time are perfectly compatible, despite the fact that Tesla did not agree with Einstein on many points!

And pay attention to the word DYNAMIC in Tesla's theory of gravity.

Will try to post more on this.

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Misdirection

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Mikado14 wrote:The right hand must never know what the left hand is doing and what appears is not what is solid, in other words, all smoke and mirrors.
Magicians call that term "misdirection". If you've never seen it before, go rent (or buy) The Prestige. Hugh Jackman plays a magician and he calls on Nikola Tesla (played by David Bowie) in the movie. I love the part when the magician visits Colorado Springs at night and is on a hill with hundreds of light bulbs stuck into the ground. The incandescent bulbs are all light. Then the magician says to Tesla's assistant, "Where are the wires?" and the assistant says, "Exactly!". David Bowie does a good job of portraying Tesla in the movie...

I'm still "chewing on" your post Linda but my brain is foggy today and I haven't come up with anything. I did see this for sugar powered vehicles: http://www.pollutiononline.com/content/ ... dcc2403478 But I do not believe that is the direction you want me to go.

You talk about the rocks and sand. That reminds me of a Canadian inventor, John Hutchinson: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Hutch ... nventor%29
Not only did he claim to have strange antigravity effects but melting/melding of dissimilar materials (e.g., wood into metal, etc.), reminiscent of the sailors into the metal decks. He also developed what he called "Quantum batteries" that used crystals from soils he collected.

Since we are talking about antigravity here, someone replicated and proved with equations that electric and gravimetric fields are related. Go to: http://www.jeffreyncook.com/ and then look under the Jeff Cook effect. It appears that this individual has linked TTB and Leedskalnin's ideas into one unique effect. I'd like to build such a coil using florist wire. The link to the video is most interesting...

The truth is out there. We just have to sift for it...

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AM,
Dynamic, I like that word.
Consider nothing is solid, its all dynamic, continuously swithing on/off.
You therefore don't exist thousands of times per second, and each TIME you reform in a fractionally different flow of time.

Our limited senses cannot detect this , we have had no reason to, to survive here in this condition.

To our senses observing this at great distances, we will send out signals and recieve them back at a mathmatical rate that will equate to what is observed as movement of the observed item, its the timing of the observations by our limited sensors that will observe the movement of time, not of the mass moving, but the time moving relative to the distance away the mass is.
thus the whole of creation will appear to be moving relative to the point of where the observation is undertaken, but nothing moves except time, and it moves in all directions at once, with a multitude of timelines to be found on the trajectory of where we appear to be moving along.
Each time line will have different outcomes along it, all timelines will spiral together at points, mindblowing.
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Re: Misdirection

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htmagic wrote: Since we are talking about antigravity here, someone replicated and proved with equations that electric and gravimetric fields are related. Go to: http://www.jeffreyncook.com/ and then look under the Jeff Cook effect. It appears that this individual has linked TTB and Leedskalnin's ideas into one unique effect. I'd like to build such a coil using florist wire. The link to the
Interesting. So far only Tim Ventura seems to have (partly) replicated the effect: http://www.americanantigravity.com/jeffcook.shtml. Not something to test near the computer, it seems, but could be fun.
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The Missing Years

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And you all probably thought I'd walked off the set.

No... just... wandering around in different circles... still trying to find some ball bearings...
Victoria Steele wrote:

But what about the missing years? Paul? Will the missing years be in cluded in the published book? Can we ask about what the Brown family was doing between 1958 and 1967? You have already written about some of it when you introduced the Linda and Morgan story line. Can we investigate further. Will you not want us even talking about that?

Dont want to cross lines that you hold sacred but then don't want to just ignore those years either. Thats where most of the secrets lie. My feelings anyway.
Victoria, I share your suspicion that "that's where most of the secrets lie," which is why I thought it would be a useful narrative construction to just "leap over" those years like it was some deep dark hole that could only be traversed by jumping. (I rather thought it was a pretty convenient short cut, too. "Holy Cow, Batman," I thought to myself when the idea first alighted.... "I can just SKIP OVER all those years and don't have to write about them!")

True, as you've pointed out the "Morgan and Linda" thread does get started during those years. I'd actually forgotten that (and Lord knows what else!) until you pointed it out. So that's one strand that gets pulled out of that "dark" period, along with all the other stuff around it. Ashlawn, the first fan prototypes, Decker "1", etc. All part of that period.

I haven't decided yet how I will ultimately treat those years. I have thought a time or three that there might be a chapter near the end of a future draft called "The Missing Years" that would look back on the years that had been skipped over. And while there are certainly some interesting stories from the period, most of falls into the category of "anecdotal" as opposed to "truly revealing" as to what was going on during that period.

So, like I said somewhere near "The End," there is always the danger that telling more "stories" will run the risk of "doing more of the same and expecting different results."

But none of those decisions have to be made now.

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You guys are up too late for me. Goodnight! Victoria[/quote]
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Acronyms

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htmagic wrote: I'd love to go to the Sphinx. I'd love to visit and ride in the FTM (just WHAT is that acronym anyway?)
For htmagic and anybody else that might be wondering, the answer to that question lies not-so-hidden in Chapter 76:

https://www.ttbrown.com/defying_gravity/76_FTM.html

Like Trickfox says, "have fun with it.... but be careful!"

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Paul,

You puzzle the shit out of me.

"I haven't decided yet how I will ultimately treat those years. I have thought a time or three that there might be a chapter near the end of a future draft called "The Missing Years" that would look back on the years that had been skipped over. And while there are certainly some interesting stories from the period, most of falls into the category of "anecdotal" as opposed to "truly revealing" as to what was going on during that period."

What are you actually saying here? Interesting anecdotal as opposed to truly revealing? Just what the heck are you looking for? Are you sure that your readers would prefer the " truy revealing" over the " anecdotal?
That story which was recently relayed by Linda about the way she and her Dad would spend time on the beach writing patents? Is that to be discarded? You think thats unimportant? I frankly ... if you have " some interesting stories" about those missing years.... I sure as heck want to hear them. What sort of filtering process are you employing here or does it run more truly back to " Hey, I can see the barn ahead .... lets get the heck home."

Its not " The End" yet. Too much more out there. Sorry <g> MarkC
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Langley wrote:It is I think quite easy to accelerate negative ions. It is harder to accelerate positive ions.
Why do you say this? Don't particle accelerators cylotrons do this all the time? They steer the charged particles (think ions, it can be positive or negative) using magnetic fields.

Now I know that in the early days of the Manhattan Project, scientists used a calutron http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calutron to magnetically separate uranium isotopes. And these were positively charged ions.
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Langley wrote:As an example imagine a TV tube containing a positive ion plasma. Turn the TV on. The track of the electron beam issued by the electron gun would be truncated by the electron capture of the positive ions. But prior to that, there would be distance travelled by the high speed electrons into the plasma.

If you are talking about a television picture tube (known as a cathode ray tube {CRT}), I am not aware of any "plasmas" inside. There is an electron gun in the neck of the tube and a phosphor screen but the rest of the tube is evacuated space under vacuum. There are some ions inside the tube due to the imperfect vacuum but an ion trap placed in later models removed them. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cathode_ray_tube

Now if you're talking about plasma displays, well yes, there is plasma inside but there are no electron guns. There are electrodes controlled by circuitry to ionize the plasma and excite the phosphors.

Langley wrote:If the combined velocity is high enough, electrical repulsion is overcome, invoking the nuclear force, fusion in a tv tube.
I do not believe fusion is going on inside a CRT. Read the writeup on Farnsworth's fusor. Farnsworth got the idea of the fusor when he saw what he called "poissors" inside some of his special UHF vacuum tubes he worked with. http://www.farnovision.com/chronicles/f ... latos.html

Hope this helps clear up any confusion...

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I really wish that Paul was still looking over the forum but I know that he is " gone for the day" so I guess I will stick my foot in the door here... wave that familiar looking red flag and yell " marking this spot, marking this spot"

"Eric Dollard is an electrical engineer who has done remarkably exhaustive historical research and experimental verifications of scientific claims made by Nikola Tesla a century before. It was through Mr. Dollard that we learned about a forgotten chapter in the art of controlled thermonuclear fusion like no other. In fact, those who read this article may be shocked to learn the real truth abouttone specific "hot fusion" project from 1962 until 1967."

Now I will not get into any of the Fusion subjects but I want to point a couple of things out here regarding this article. Notice first , the source. Borderlands... Vassilatos ...... ( not that that is bad in this case, just a tad quirky ... especially when it digs up the above statement) All I am noting is the time span here folks. 1962 ( The year that Townsend Brown relocated to Philadelphia to start work at Deckers building #4 and 1967 ... the year of the over the wall peacock raid for material at that same building) and the shutting down of everything that had been involved there so thoroughly that its even hard now to find the name "Martin Decker" anywhere.

So ... what else is said about this specific " hot fusion project" during those years, from this source? Bound to be an interesting rabbit hole jaunt..

And Paul will recognize Eric Dollard name quickly enough I think. So until he gets back I am just marking the spot for further discussion. Elizabeth
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If this isn't synchronicity as C. G. Jung would say! Ms. Drake, just today I wrote to two gentlemen regarding Eric Dollard.

Mr. Dollard is a brilliant man and I perfectly agree with you waiving the red-flag.

He was already mentioned at the forum a while ago, but then the discussion went into a different direction. I warmly recommend the reading of his articles:

- "Dielectricity and Capacitance"

http://www.borderlands.com/dollardandtesla.htm

- "The Fallacy of Conductors"

http://www.borderlands.com/archives/arch/fallacy.htm

Further I would like to draw your attention to a short entry in http://peswiki.com/index.php/PowerPedia:Eric_Dollard, where you can also find links to his two truly excellent videos.

SOMEBODY SHOULD INVITE MR. DOLLARD TO THIS FORUM.

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