"Quantum Hotel"

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Re: "Quantum Hotel"

Postby skyfish » Sat Nov 15, 2008 7:46 am

Yeah...I'll bet it does!
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Fuzzy

Postby Mikado14 » Sat Nov 15, 2008 3:36 pm

I have found references to "fuzzy gravity" but every time I go to one of the links, I am finding the identical words. It is almost as if one person has written it and many have copied it. However, I did find a paper that goes way too deep for me but what I was able to ascertain from the thesis was that "fuzzy gravity" is derived from "fuzzy space". The Hall Effect, essentially is that current in a wire that has magnetic lines of force transverse to the flow of current will cause the current carries to be displaced in the direction of the transverse field. To attempt to understand what Quantum Hall Effect is, well, there is no direct definition that I could find readily available, but then I only spent a few minutes looking. Therefore, extrapolating from what I know I would say that one looks at the smallest level to see what is happening between the electron carriers and the effect of the magnetic field. Now going a bit further, is it possible to define all space with finite Hilbert space? There are other spaces that have finite entropy and defining all space in a finite Hilbert model may work for the basis of theory. I do believe that Lorentz and Riemann functions will enter in there or be lurking about as well as Minkowski but hell, what do I know, this is just a pure out and out guess.

Now with that little tidbit I would like to mention that the subject of branes comes up very readily in an analysis of "fuzzy gravity" and it should be noted that Lisa Randall is very much active in this arena and I am but a mote in her eye when it comes to this.

Something to ponder however, you do not need to be an electrical/electronic engineer to build a generator and make electricity, I further believe that you do not have to be a PHD or Noble laureate to build upon Dr Brown's work.

Will a flying disc apply fuzzy gravity to function? My answer is no.

But then I have other thoughts as well as I am sure half of this forum does.

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Re: "Quantum Hotel"

Postby skyfish » Sat Nov 15, 2008 5:40 pm

Hi Mikado,

Here is the original link to the article, but it now requires registration.
That is interesting. That site probably has experience an upswing in traffic!

I further believe that you do not have to be a PHD or Noble laureate to build upon Dr Brown's work.

Well...yes of course. Dr. Brown is a prime example.

When the planck constants were discovered in the graity detector, that links gravity and
time as a manifestation of the zpf. This should make the zpf quantifiable and it will
probably equal the cosmological constant.

It also indicates the scale of the interaction with the aether. Very small.
Time is present at the scale smaller than subatomic particles.
At the scale of the very small , infinity can be realized.

Lisa Randall is definately a very interesting person.

http://www.physics.harvard.edu/people/f ... ndall.html

Her research concerns elementary particles and fundamental forces, and has involved the study of a wide variety of models, the most recent involving extra dimensions of space.

What do we expect another dimension to look like? Increments on a clock? lol

Yes!...the earth is flat and my head is a box! lol

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Re: "Quantum Hotel"

Postby skyfish » Sat Nov 15, 2008 6:01 pm

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Re: "Quantum Hotel"

Postby amalie » Sun Nov 16, 2008 7:29 am

Kevin ,

What is Scrummy, crummy with a capital S ?

Cuddly and likable sounds like the sort of persona, that I would like to project .
Kind of harmless anyway .

Perhaps you have locate the phantasm that I need to continue to believe in myself , if such a thing is necessary .

I am sure life would be much easier if more people saw me as a Scrummy type , as I am way to old to be a sex goddess.

Anyway like you I am still trying to dream my way through reality

Amalie

Skyfish ,

I can't get it together to pay for the on -line link just now , but quantum time sounds about right .

"Poets have long believed the passage of time to be unavoidable, inexorable and generally melancholic. Quantum mechanics says it is fuzzy, ticking along at minimum intervals within which the notion of time is meaningless."

Poets are just about linked into the quantum level probably , as they so wrapped up in their internal vision that they can't see anything beyond the melancholic search for inspiration, but now quantum science says that is just what time ACTUALLY and what it PHYSICALLY is , dislocate,fuzzy and meaningless or non -operational .

Time tells us it's own particular stories about human life and human history , in chunks , which is how we experience our personal continuum anyway .

Creeps in this petty pace from day to day
To the last syllable of recorded time,
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out brief candle.
Life’s but a walking shadow, a poor player
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.

"A walking shadow ,a poor player" , basically time is inadequate.
If time can only be measured by what it is connected to, are there holes in time as well as space .

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Re: "Quantum Hotel"

Postby kevin.b » Sun Nov 16, 2008 9:38 am

Amalie,
"Scrummy " is another word similer to delicious.
Age has nothing to do with it, I have a lady who visits our shop each week in her ninties who is scrummy, she radiates such, nothing is an obsticle to her, and when I dowse her field , it is as large as any young person.
She gets annoyed at the failing body, but battles on, She knows I really like HER.
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Re: "Quantum Hotel"

Postby Griffin » Sun Nov 16, 2008 12:04 pm

Yes, Skyfish. Your following remark is so true. Of course, TTB’s science is the consequential product of the man and how he was attuned.

I see clearly that it is not the science of Dr. Brown that is the most important aspect of this. It is the nature of the man.


This is the crux of the matter. We are at a point where we must adapt to a higher standard of both character and technology, and we have models to guide and help us -- both homegrown and exotic.

What type of person would merit a partnership relationship with truly higher beings?

TTB was dedicated to preserving and fostering life, imo, and the kind of technology he most treasured was the kind that could best accomplish this. While he recognized the distorting realities of the present times, his vision was on the future and what not only could be, but definitely would be. Interestingly, I believe that a group of Extraterrestrial-Extradimensional Visitants are also life nurturers. It did not seem merely coincidental to me that their technology, as modeled in the so-called Adamski flying disc, exemplified what TTB was already developing at the time.

We don’t have to become as evolved as the Visitants to merit their guidance -- they’ve already made that available as appropriate. But we do have to grow some to deserve the celestial car keys. We have to become more like TTB.

Beau Kitselman recognized this and wrote The Time Teachers to expound on it. What are the lessons of Time? How to use it well, and how to transcend its apparent limitations. It requires some time spent on developing the qualities which will allow this. If you want to travel in the higher dimensions where the constraints of time and entropy are minimized, you have to begin by lightening your ego baggage load. It’s not a matter of an extra baggage charge, it’s an essential requirement of traveling light for being able to board and ascend into the rarified realms of light at all. If we want to evolve the world we need to evolve ourselves. This has been taught in all positive religious-spiritual traditions of our world, so it shouldn’t be surprising to encounter a similar message from the Visitants, who have been with us throughout history.

Although this teaching has been available throughout history, it is being emphasized globally now as we face planetary disasters that not only require changes in attitude and behavior but also the use of enlightened technology. Where can we find an appropriate model for both? Close to home, here on this Flow Forum, imho.

As ever,

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Re: "Quantum Hotel"

Postby kevin.b » Sun Nov 16, 2008 12:24 pm

Griffin,
You exhibit the requirements, imho.
Try this little link to the light,
http://www.omsriram.com/Helical%20Trave ... 0Light.htm

If the sort of casing of the DNA type spiral case is what is been measured as the speed of light, then it is not light but the carrier of light, and other STUFF?
That light, photons, will possibly be experiencing next to NO TIME, and because the interior of the spirals are MIRROR like, everything is encased within, until it meets the correct opposite refractive MIRROR face spiral travelling in the opposite direction, then photons and other STUFF can escape out locally.

The result of that is that the sun is not radiating light, it is releasing light locally about itself, it will be a planet, a really big planet.

Light upon light, g-d guides whom he will to his light.
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Re: "Quantum Hotel"

Postby Linda Brown » Sun Nov 16, 2008 1:44 pm

Griffin and Kevin,

What a magnificent pair you are! So far apart, yet not at all. I am so impressed and appreciative!

And with you Amalie! Its as if ... well ... maybe this describes you too . Someone once called me a " Hummingbird wrapped in saran wrap". At the time he was worried about me I think and saw me as a person who might need to be protected from a world filled with birds of Prey... a nasty , harsh, ruthless world .... And when he said that it was true in alot of ways that I had stood still long enough to alow these thin coverings to be wrapped around and around and around. I could see things still but my wings were effectively ... useless..... Then through the process of working on the information to help Paul with this book it was as if the bindings fell away, layer by layer. Just recently I have learned that YES ... I can actually fly ... sometimes do an actually pretty good job of it ...

But then ... there is the choice. Do you fly alone? Or do you try to take others with you? I sense that much of your decision making processes Amalie might revolve around that question. Its one thing to reach hieghts of understanding but another if no one else is beside you.

You have been honored by having one of your fellow travellers call you " Scrummy" I figured that out by thinking it must have an affiliation with the word " Scrumptious". But when this man calls you that he is going way way beyond what the physical is ( though that is part of it) and seeing what you ACTUALLY are ... which is a hummingbird of the most amazing possibilities..... Twigsnapper reminded Morgan ( in front of me, no less) that some Hummingbirds can fly thousands and thousands of miles, unerringly finding their exact location. Birds of Prey have nothing on them because .... well.... half of the time they can't even see them.

And Morgan said that he was right and suddenly the rest of the saran wrap fell away. Thats what I wish for you too Amalie. Keep going! You will find a way to manifest that dream. But ..... remember your good company.

Kevin ... there are no appropriate words. Someday you and I will walk your favorite fields and have a chance to really talk.

And Griffin. We have already had the first of our walks I guess! Keeping up the family tradition. I just wanted you to know that what you have written in your last message here is ........... full of wonder .......... and I look forward to your book almost as much as I look forward to Pauls. They are meant I think to go sort of hand in hand ....

"What type of person would merit a partnership relationship with truly higher beings?"

There is the major question. And my my answer would be .... someone who has discovered what it means to travel really, really, really ... "light".
With all my admiration to all of you. Linda
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Re: "Quantum Hotel"

Postby skyfish » Sun Nov 16, 2008 6:16 pm

Scrummy?? So funny...hard to type when you are laughing.

The way to dusty death. Out, out brief candle.
Life’s but a walking shadow, a poor player
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.


Amalie,
We must all keep the above in mind. Our level of joy is equal to the level of enlightment.
This whole stage is so fleeting. Some play the game as if it is for keeps.
They hold on so tight they sqeeze the joy right out of it!
I try not to hold too tightly.

Fly hummingbird fly!
I feed them and love to wath them. I feed the songbirds too.

When I first posted that link, it did not require registration...hmmmm.

I am contemplating the heirarchy of manifestation. Will share that later.

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Re: "Quantum Hotel"

Postby skyfish » Sun Nov 16, 2008 6:37 pm

Kevin,
Check out the pic of the multiverse.
Our universe was made to fit! lol
Creator/creation.
Invisible dimensions stayted compact, invisible...yes!

http://discovermagazine.com/2008/dec/10 ... :int=0&-C=

Tweak the laws of physics in just about any way and—in this universe, anyway—life as we know it would not exist.

When a new universe sprouts from its parent, the concept goes, only three of the dimensions of space predicted by string theory will inflate into large, full-blown, inhabitable spaces. The other dimensions of space will remain essentially invisible—but nonetheless will influence the form the universe takes. Linde and his colleagues figured out how the invisible dimensions stayed compact and went on to propose billions of permutations, each giving rise to a unique universe

Hi Griffin,

We don’t have to become as evolved as the Visitants to merit their guidance -- they’ve already made that available as appropriate. But we do have to grow some to deserve the celestial car keys. We have to become more like TTB.

In the ancient gnostic texts, they speak of archons. The archons dwell in the plemora, that which is pre-matter, the foundation of the universe. Yes...that would qualify as extra-dimensional beings in my book.
And yes, we, as a world have to grow. We are on the doorstep of an age where man's nature will be made(is being made) apparent, and union with the eternal will transpire. Not just in a metaphysical terms. This elevation of our consciousness will result in a transformation of our sciences too. The path is fraut with danger. Where that path ends up, is directly dependant on the nature of mankinds intentions and consciousness. An awsome responsibility beyond words. Is the world ready?

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Re: "Quantum Hotel"

Postby kevin.b » Sun Nov 16, 2008 6:59 pm

Linda Brown,
You said,
"Kevin... there are no appropriate words, one day you and I will walk your favorite fields and have the chance to really"...

at this point, as we are in a quantum hotel, we have to cut transmission due to inappropreiate thought patterns of reciever.

"Talk" ,

Story of my life.
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Re: "Quantum Hotel"

Postby skyfish » Sun Nov 16, 2008 9:42 pm

Brain candy:

Don't now if you guys have seen these.
Interesting.

quantum Hall effect

http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg2 ... tml?page=1


New particle?

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn1 ... atron.html

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Re: "Quantum Hotel"

Postby arc » Mon Nov 17, 2008 12:24 am

Skyfish; from the site you quoted ,

While the CDF team is circumspect, theoreticians are more willing to speculate. If the signal is not spurious, this means that some unknown particle with a lifetime of about 20 picoseconds was produced in the collision, travelled about 1 centimetre, through the side of the beam pipe, and then decayed into muons.

"A centimetre is a long way for most kinds of particles to make it before decaying," says Dan Hooper of Fermilab. "It's too early to say much about this. That being said, if it turns out that a new 'long-lived' particle exists, it would be a very big deal."


Unexplainable particles that last a long time before decaying, another level of matter that we didnt know about. so many things that we just "dont know about"
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Re: "Quantum Hotel"

Postby FM No Static At All » Mon Nov 17, 2008 9:03 am

Skyfish wrote: Now...one thing that has become VERY clear to me in the last few days. It is not just the "science" of this that is important. Because we are linked to this medium by consciousness, we cannot ignore the implications. This medium is not accessed by energies derived from the ego. Our intentions must be in the purest form possible.
No greed.
No deception.
Good can only come from good.

I see clearly that it is not the science of Dr. Brown that is the most important aspect of this. It is the nature of the man.

So then it is possible that the creation of the universe is through conscious intent. That would make it finite if intelligence is not manifest outside of humanity and the creator. That anything but good intention was placed within its creation would deny that creation is caused by love. Love that transcends emotional and physical, to a higher love, for life itself. Certainly the essence of humanism which Dr. Brown seemed to emanate.

And I strongly agree that coming from good intent will certainly make for creation of positive manifestations in whatever it is your about.

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