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Re: Hidden but why

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AM2,

Possibly. However, a "box" can be shaped like anything, while containing something entirely different. You are looking at a shortwave radio facade. While the box has the appearance of a ordinary shortwave radio, I think we can agree that the circuitry is slightly modified.

I think one of the misconceptions that has come up several times in the past is the apparent absence of a spherical (lead) antenna. If that set does in fact use a spherical (lead, dense) antenna, what is the difference between a very large ball, and a smaller ball antenna when the inherent density of the antenna material is the same ? Partuclarly when dealing with spherical antennas in the higher frequencies.

Perhaps only the addition of a higher power amplifier ?
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did someone say "electrogravitic communication"

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I Believe AM has the correct idea by mentioning the special diode. In fact, I have experience in this type of signal coding.
A friend of mine was capable of "burning" holes in a semiconductor junction using a curve tracer that was specially equipped. When he would put this diode inside the tank circuit of a spiral wound high frequency antenna. The sequency of the noise produced by this semiconductor junction was the result of the delta modulation of a common oscillator and a servo-loop tracking circuit. What seamed like ordinary impulse noise was actually the signal modulated tracking servo-loop (which contained the original signal information). All that was necessary to demodulte the signal was a VERY precise time base, and the nominal oscillation fequency of the tank circuit. The secret is: knowing the precise "Gravity reference point".
Not sure I want to go any further on this.

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Re: Hidden but why

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This is really some interesting stuff here! I seem to remember Tesla using spiral coils in a conical shape also. I can't remember off hand whether he used them in pairs nor what the orientation of them would have been if he did. I'm just going to cool off from this 95 degree heat for now and give my head a rest. I also have been trying to absorb all of this and several other subjects that I am currently involved in.

oh, yeah, I almost forgot: I think it was Mr Kevin B. that mentioned a rainbow pattern associated with electrogravitic waves, and that reminded e that what is erroneously called the Philadelphia Experiment was known as Project Rainbow. Tesla was consulted but he didn't want to have anything to do with it because he felt it was extremely dangerous to use a crew aboard the ship during the experiments. I also had a family friend that was a radar technician stationed at the PNSY during the war and he had a very nervous and odd way about him. When I was a child I was told that it was from the war, but he never left stateside, having only been stationed at Willow Grove, PA and then at PNSY. Many years later when I "heard" about the Philadelphia Experiment and the USS Eldridge, I asked him a question which seemed to upset him quite a bit. It is also odd that although he was quite intelligent and knowledgeable about radio and television, that he spent his entire civilian career working at a repair shop only about a mile or two from the base. Was that to keep an eye on him?

Stay cool and well everyone!

And I send cool and healing energy your way also Mr. Trickfox.

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Re: Circle Theater

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Mikado14 wrote:
natecull wrote:* 'A Course In Miracles', the rediscovered original version put on the Web in 2000
Interesting.....1984? or so? 365 lessons.
1972-ish for the original, and yes, a 'Textbook', a 'Workbook' with 365 daily meditations, and a 'Teacher's guide'.

In 2000, some naughty people found some original texts predating the 'First Edition' in the Hugh Lynn Cayce archives, and posted them to the Internet. A copyright lawsuit later, the text is open and free for the world to copy, so yay pirates.

The 'HLC' version: http://www.miraclesnetwork.org/booksACIMtext.htm
The 'Ur-text' which is even earlier and seems much more human and chattier: http://courseinmiracles.com/

It sort of gobsmacked me in the frontal lobe when I read it a couple years ago, because it was saying *exactly* what I'd just been reading in some fairly orthodox Christian mystical materials (Julian of Norwich and Thomas Merton), only in modern psychological/scientific language. Most Christians won't touch it however... they think it's occult and of the devil... hmm... if ACIM is like what Jesus taught in the 1st century AD I think I can understand why he got crucified. 'Love your enemies, yes, for seriously' is not always a popular message among the religious. :)
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Re: Circle Theater

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natecull wrote: 1972-ish for the original, and yes, a 'Textbook', a 'Workbook' with 365 daily meditations, and a 'Teacher's guide'.
And if I may be so bold to ask this, how many of the 365 daily meditations did you complete?

None of my business really, just thought since you appeared knowledgable that you may have completed the course.

Your choice to answer or not.

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Re: Circle Theater

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Mikado14 wrote: And if I may be so bold to ask this, how many of the 365 daily meditations did you complete?
I went through the whole thing. Didn't take it overly seriously, I suppose, and it didn't melt my brain or anything, but I enjoyed it.

To me it wasn't so much doing the meditations as discovering this piece of writing that seemed to link together a whole number of different philosophical and religious ideas. I'm still processing the results of that and suspect I will be for quite some time, but I think one of the side-effects is that I am a little less afraid of new ideas than I used to be.
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natecull wrote: 1972-ish for the original, and yes, a 'Textbook', a 'Workbook' with 365 daily meditations, and a 'Teacher's guide'.

In 2000, some naughty people found some original texts predating the 'First Edition' in the Hugh Lynn Cayce archives, and posted them to the Internet. A copyright lawsuit later, the text is open and free for the world to copy, so yay pirates.

The 'HLC' version: http://www.miraclesnetwork.org/booksACIMtext.htm
The 'Ur-text' which is even earlier and seems much more human and chattier: http://courseinmiracles.com/

It sort of gobsmacked me in the frontal lobe when I read it a couple years ago, because it was saying *exactly* what I'd just been reading in some fairly orthodox Christian mystical materials (Julian of Norwich and Thomas Merton), only in modern psychological/scientific language. Most Christians won't touch it however... they think it's occult and of the devil... hmm... if ACIM is like what Jesus taught in the 1st century AD I think I can understand why he got crucified. 'Love your enemies, yes, for seriously' is not always a popular message among the religious. :)
Being one that is not religious , in fact in some respects you can deem me as being anti-religious, nevertheless I will respect another person's choice in what they believe and what works for them. Keeping in mind however that many lives have been lost because of beliefs and to suppress truth where it would undermine the agendas of the powers that be. It is not my intent to offend only to enlighten.

Because I was born into a family of very different religious beliefs, I spent quite a bit of my developmental years learning as much as I could about both of my parents religions as well as others. I learned at an early age that there was much hatred within my own family as well as the rest of the world when it came to religion. In studying Hebrew I was taught that messiah means "messenger" but in reading a few contemporary texts the word has been defined as "anointed one" denoting royalty. It also is a mistranslation of the Hebrew Y'shua which translated to English is Joshua, and not Jesus. The family lineage itself has been obscured first by Paul, and later by Constantine at the Conventions of Nicea, where most of the early teachings and texts regarding the historical times when Y'shua lived were replaced with those written by Roman subjects a century or more after the fact.

Today we have a Roman Catholic Church whose doctrines and dogma little resemble the original teachings of Torah which is what was followed and what was sacred to the Israelites during those early times of occupation by Rome. Even the Rabbinical Judaism as it is today was not the same as it was in those ancient times of Mosaic Law. Y'shua was the birthright king who as Hebrew tradition dictates, was anointed (with oil) and as a secular ruler is humble to God, rode through the streets of Jerusalem on an ass, not in fancy coach. Herod who was an appointed king was not even Hebrew and the people wanted a Hebrew king to lead their revolt from Roman rule. To them it was as the prophets foretold, the end times, when Israel had become "wicked and wanton" and God would turn his back to His people and allow the destruction of Israel. The Pauline Gospels were the what the Roman Church adopted over those of the Nazareans, of which Y'acov()Jacob/James) and his siblings Y'shua (Judah/Jesus) and Y''yudah Judah/Judas Thomas) were both devotees of. Melach b'Israel would have been the title not Moshiach, King not Messenger. And the name Thomas according to ancient Greek linguists was translated to mean Twin, and that throws another wrench in the works of the early Church.

In Matthew Y'shua said "But I have not come to abolish the Law, I have come to keep it and to fulfill the prophecy." But while Jew and Christian have been bickering and debating the scripture of the Old and New Testaments for years, a new religion was born which today encompasses the majority of religious faithful in the world. Now while I cannot say with certainty that Islam in and of itself is a religion that condones the barbarism and "jihad" as it is preached by Imams the world over, I can say with certainty that it is a threat to anything that is not of Islamic Doctrine.

Edgar Cayce's readings I have read extensively, and his ability to see things in the future or to diagnose illness in others was quite remarkable if not miraculous itself. And having also read and watched The Secret and the film What The Bleep Do We Know I have come up with some rather different theories about life and creation that are contrary to most belief systems that I know of.

Those of us here on the forums, which I still consider myself a newcomer here, have been exposed to the remarkable insights that Dr. Brown and a rare few others have demonstrated over the course of their lives. I also place Nikola Tesla in the same unique group of extraordinarily gifted men (and women) who for some reason were so gifted with an ability to know things that were so far beyond what was "known" by others of their tome, that they would have been elevated to great heights if not for their humbleness and modesty in their knowledge. Rather than becoming a hero, they quietly allowed others to gain praise and fortunes on the labors of these remarkable people. s. Brown can verify that her father was not after fame or fortune else her family life would have been much different.

In recent days I have been overcome with a persistent thought about the many fine individuals here in the forums, from far reaches of this world, all coming together here for a purpose which many of us still don't quite understand. I am no exception here, but I would like to offer a possibility, that may have been emanating from Dr. Brown and those that for so many years have been protecting his works from misuse.

We are currently entering an era that many feel are the "end times" and other see it as a time of change. I am one of the latter thinkers in that I feel changes are happening and that their is much resistance to those changes. There are many who feel threatened by what is coming and do not want to give up their status quo without a fight. We may be the very group that is choosing itself and at the same time being guided to come to choice about leading that change.

Just as Dr. Brown "recruited" Morgan, and like Dr. Brown himself was chosen aboard the Caroline to become a member of a very unique group, we must also come to choice about the path we now take.

There are many fronts from which we are being confronted now. Economics, Ecology, Energy, Food, Health, and certainly our religious beliefs. We are at a crossroads in our current historical epoch, and we must come to choice. Will we be leaders or followers? Will we choose what serves the highest good of all or will we play cover our own "tuchises" and be on the side that seems to be winning?

As Lloyd Pye wrote "Everything you know is wrong." and we must learn everything anew. We must learn who we really are, as self and as a collective consciousness, so that we may choose which direction will serve the benefit of all of humanity in a most honorable way.
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Re: Hidden but why

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Since it appears that everyone is on the religious bandwagon and religion is purely a subjective term, I have a wee story.

There once were two countries seperated by a raging river. On one side was the land of Woe and on the other, the land of Bliss. A day came when a man in the land of Bliss decided to help provide a means for the people in the land of Woe to come to the land of Bliss. This man took a very stout rope and tied it to a tree on the shore of Bliss and then tied it to himself. He then risked the torrential river and began to swim across. It was very difficult and many times he thought that he would surely drown but his efforts were rewarded, he slowly made it to the other side where his feet could touch bottom and he was able to stand and walk from the water, dirty and covered with debris he came ashore. A hunter noticed him and feared that he was some creature coming from the river. As he tied off the rope to a tree the hunter shot him with an arrow and as he lay dying he told him that he was from Bliss across the river and here is a rope to aid others to get there and with that the man died. The hunter spread the word of this heroic man who gave his life so that others could get to the land of Bliss. They built a monument to him and buildings to praise his name and yet no one used the rope. Eventually, the rope rotted away and fell into the river but the people of Woe continued to build monuments and buildings and praise his name.

Not exactly correct but the gist is there. If you want the original it is in the Course. It is referenced as the words of Jesus through a medium.

nate wrote:But the core of the message is actually as common as hydrogen: love your neighbour, look upward, be happy, listen to your heart, trust that there's a plan.
What if you heart tells you to steal from your neighbors garden? You know, the one you love? And as to trust that there is a plan all I have to say is that I hope it is not "Plan 9 from Outer Space".

I can't say that I ascribe to the above quote.

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Re: did someone say "electrogravitic communication"

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Trickfox wrote: A friend of mine was capable of "burning" holes in a semiconductor junction using a curve tracer that was specially equipped.

That must have been one special curve tracer to be able to burn a hole in a junction without destroying the junction. OR was it merely being used to monitor the characteristics of the junction under test and take it to the beginning of avalanche? This would alter the characteristics of the junction. I suppose not too important, just curiosity on my part.

**edit**
I had an after thought after rereading my post. Your friend must have went through quite a lot of junctions to find two that exhibited the same characteristics. What good is only one device?
Trickfox wrote:When he would put this diode inside the tank circuit of a spiral wound high frequency antenna.

When you say "spiral wound", are you saying that it is wound uniformly around an axis or is it conical in nature?
Trickfox wrote: The sequency of the noise produced by this semiconductor junction was the result of the delta modulation of a common oscillator and a servo-loop tracking circuit.

Ok, you have me on this. You have a common oscillator, it is putting out a consistent frequency and then it is modulated. When you say "delta modulation" you are essentially saying "the change in" modulation. I take what you said to mean a varying modulating signal being impressed upon the frequency of the "common oscillator". Now you say "servo-loop" tracking circuit, what is the "servo"? or are you saying "phase locked loop"? There is no argument or discussion that what you are doing with the diode will produce noise, I just want to understand the means of what the other circuit is.

Trickfox wrote:What seamed like ordinary impulse noise was actually the signal modulated tracking servo-loop (which contained the original signal information). All that was necessary to demodulte the signal was a VERY precise time base, and the nominal oscillation fequency of the tank circuit. The secret is: knowing the precise "Gravity reference point".
Not sure I want to go any further on this.

Still not sure what you mean by "tracking servo-loop" but to demodulate with a VERY precise time base..well I still see a problem with it in that there a time base is measureing in a precise repetition where as impluse noise is random. Since the "special diode" is actually creating the signal ....How does the receiver know a reference to the original "noise" from the diode? And for the love of me, and I have been racking my brain, "gravity reference point"? I'll keep pondering on that for awhile.

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Intelligent Noise (again)

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Darn it .....There is just too much NEW information to explain here in a single post, and Mikado.....YOU HAVE the background data you need to understand all this in the RED NOTEBOOK that was given to you. I suppose I let it slip by that I was introducing new concepts here, which some of you have seen in the an article called "intelligent Noise" which has been quoted in past threads.

I supposeI was trying to express the opinion that Communications and Doctor Brown's work was IMHO the primordial important science to explore, and that dislacement,and "over unity energy", or even FTM ideas.

So..... Mr. enforcer check the red notebook under the "SECRET"section.

Otherwise, Anyone else will just have to re-read the "intelligent noise" stuff all over again.
I guess that's another GOLDEN THREAD, but Elizabeth and others will decide on this. For me it's only been a 28 year quest to understand something totally different....- like the electrogravitic innertial scalar point of reference ( where the gravity scalar meets the electric scalar).

I'm not EVEN going to try and go back through all I've already posted on this. I simply want to congratulate AM on his comments and encourage him to explore other threads whare I have spoken about this "ultrawideband or "DC to Daylight"" principle.

His inights have come as good questions and better answers, however young he may seem, - he is definatly very aware of multiple cultures and ideas.

We are priveledged to have many fine minds in this forum.

Thank you all for listening.

Mikado, if you want to take this technical disccussion deeper lets do it in PM.

AM will you answer my last PM and we shall get FM involved a little later.

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Re: Intelligent Noise (again)

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Trickfox wrote:Darn it .....There is just too much NEW information to explain here in a single post, and Mikado.....YOU HAVE the background data you need to understand all this in the RED NOTEBOOK that was given to you. I suppose I let it slip by that I was introducing new concepts here, which some of you have seen in the an article called "intelligent Noise" which has been quoted in past threads.

I supposeI was trying to express the opinion that Communications and Doctor Brown's work was IMHO the primordial important science to explore, and that dislacement,and "over unity energy", or even FTM ideas.

So..... Mr. enforcer check the red notebook under the "SECRET"section.

Otherwise, Anyone else will just have to re-read the "intelligent noise" stuff all over again.
I guess that's another GOLDEN THREAD, but Elizabeth and others will decide on this. For me it's only been a 28 year quest to understand something totally different....- like the electrogravitic innertial scalar point of reference ( where the gravity scalar meets the electric scalar).

I'm not EVEN going to try and go back through all I've already posted on this. I simply want to congratulate AM on his comments and encourage him to explore other threads whare I have spoken about this "ultrawideband or "DC to Daylight"" principle.

His inights have come as good questions and better answers, however young he may seem, - he is definatly very aware of multiple cultures and ideas.

We are priveledged to have many fine minds in this forum.

Thank you all for listening.

Mikado, if you want to take this technical disccussion deeper lets do it in PM.

AM will you answer my last PM and we shall get FM involved a little later.

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There is one characteristic of having a forum that is a blessing and a curse at the same time - new members. The total number of posts are greater than 15,000. A lot of words out there, a lot of ideas, a lot of meaningful discussion and a lot of very good information - some hidden, some not. New members - do you Mr. Trickfox, or anyone, really expect a newly registered member to know past discussions? Just because there is a "search" function does not necessarily mean that the new member knows the exact word or phrase to search with. Secondly, when a subject comes up do we discourage or berate the new member for "not knowing"? My choice is to do what I did in my previous post. Ask questions that I had hoped that you would take the time to go into detail, however small that may be. If there is interest, then that discussion could have "key words" interjected so as to aid the newer members. Apparently, either I was wrong or you feel uncompelled to explain any more than what you have. More than likely it is choice one.

Apparently, if a book was marked "SECRET", it isn't anymore, is it? How do I respond to this? Does it exist? Was the "SECRET" really "SECRET" ? Perhaps there are no secrets that you hold, for if you held any, the person telling you would hold power over you. I have many persons holding power over me, some real, some ghosts, some divorced and some I don't see....my choice, and apparently one less. It is only power over you if you allow it.


As to Mr. AM, you really seem to be preoccupied with his youth. In my frame of reference, he is more youth than I and I do tend to look at that as being a kid. On the other hand, I fall into the category of a snot nosed kid in relation to Mr. Twigsnapper. I suppose it is all relative to where you are standing. Just because I am hard on him (AM), don't read that incorrectly for you surely would be making an enormous mistake.

The next time you bring up a subject, I will watch idly while others ask and may the gentleman take the lead. And might I point out, I did not choose the name Enforcer but if that is what you see, so be it.

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Re: Hidden but why

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Trickfox wrote: .

AM will you answer my last PM and we shall get FM involved a little later.
:lol: Did you have fun writing that?



I'm fascinated by the communications aspect too, Trickfox. i just hope your eventual patent applications don't all come back marked secret.

I think, somewhere in the forum it is stated the the "set" has been put somewhere safe until such time as it can be placed in the Smithsonian. Probably hidden in the same stable with the magic mules.

Since the set appeared later in Dr. Brown's life,Andrew, I tend to think it was based on the fan. I remember that Linda has reported that it existed in both very large and very small versions, One could easily have been placed in a transistor radio case.

What i want to know though, is If Dr. Brown had the "Set" with him at all times, did he ever pay more attention to certain broadcasts than others...or did the set even appear to be on? I'm also fascinated by the idea that his was the master set. Was it rebroadcasting to the other sets?

And is that why he insisted on playing one of two certain songs each time he demoed the fan. Was he using those as the carrier for broadcasting the meeting to remote receivers?

Although no one has claimed it to be so, given one of his other interests, i have to wonder if the set wasn't also capable of receiving sidereal radiation, (God's nervous system at work to paraphrase Dr. Brown)? What would it mean to us to be imbued with that? If sidereal radiation has a relationship to humankind, what is the best and closest metapho for that relationship: a stimulant, a controller, a soother, or a pattern?

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Kozyrev/Brown What a Set!

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Rose wrote:
Trickfox wrote: .

AM will you answer my last PM and we shall get FM involved a little later.
:lol: Did you have fun writing that?
So long as we are all on the same frequency! :P
Rose wrote:I'm fascinated by the communications aspect too, Trickfox. i just hope your eventual patent applications don't all come back marked "secret,"

I think, somewhere in the forum it is stated the the "set" has been put somewhere safe until such time as it can be placed in the Smithsonian. Probably hidden in the same stable with the magic mules.
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[quote"Rose"]Since the "set appeared later in Dr. Brown's life,Andrew, I tend to think it was based on the fan. I remember that Linda has reported that it existed in both very large and very small versions, One could easily be placed in a transistor radio case.[/quote] Can it? or would something else have replicated the basic concept and miniaturized it? I don't know, I am asking.
Rose wrote: What i want to know though, is If Dr. Brown had the "Set" with him at all times, did he ever pay more attention to certain broadcasts than others...or did the set even appear to be on? i'm also fascinated by the idea that his was the "master' set. Was it rebroadcasting to the other sets? And is that why he insisted on playing one of two certain songs each time he demoed the fan. Was he using those as the carrier for broadcasting the meeting to remote receivers?
I'd like to make a guess before this is answered (if it will be) by someone who knows. Perhaps the "master" set was receiving from someplce other than where the others were tuned into. Dr. Brown getting broadcasts that only he could deal with or chose to, and gave the other member sets (I hate using the term slave sets) information he received.

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Re: Hidden but why

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FM No Static At All wrote:. A Rose by any other name, be careful of what you which for for you may just get it. Then what will you do? Will you be ready for it? Will you know when you are?
i deeply hope that anyone in the possession of such a set would know the answer to those questions before turning the keys over to ME! <g>

Nate links to a page about what i call transdimensional communications (electronic communications with "dead" people). What is now a rather old book, with a name that i have forgotten, served as my first introduction to that astounding concept. The author claimed that his development work was being conducted with the help of notable names in the field...all of whom were working with him from the other side.

So, about the idea of client/server (better than master/slave, yes?)... if the types of dimensionally shifted beings Morgan meant were those on the other side of life as we know it, then perhaps Dr. Brown's unit served as the switchboard for communications link between the members of the different working partnerships?

I don't know, i'm just keeping this line of thought open because i suspect that the set design replication issues might fall into place more easily if we can describe its functions more clearly.

I see that you have inserted a new topic title here, instead of Hidden, but why? I think it was Victoria who started a thread about Kozyrev? Now 'll have to go and reread it.

In another, unrelated topic, I have just finished another old book called The Ion Effect by Fred Soyka. (Did you know that laboratory animals do not thrive in an ion-deprived environment in spite of receiving plenty of oxygen?) The author mentions that in England, in the 1970's, ionizers were being designed and manuafactured by C. A. Laws, "a man with a distinguished record as a pioneer in radar systems..." But as far as I can tell from a cursory google search, Mr. Laws is another man who has disappeared from the pages of history. Does his name ring a bell with you?

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Re: Hidden but why

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My dear Rose,

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