Epilogue: The Sound of Time

Use this section for any discussion specifically related to the chapters posted online of the unfolding biography, "Defying Gravity: The Parallel Universe of T. Townsend Brown
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Scooby Doo,
I have just arrived home.
AM,
I hope you have looked at indigo children, its not just children.
You say you sense things, I believe you, because so do I.
This is an open forum, the more open the better , and as fast as possible.

Anybody can view this site, I hope all are.
The people upon this forum are really special, I have thought a lot about them, I think a lot about them, don't throw the baby out with the bath water.
You are very special, pressure comes with that, tough, live with it.

I detect dead straight lines, they measure one inch wide, they are grouped in a series of nine parallel lines with three groups of three lines equally spaced with the two gaps between the three groups been 50% more that the distance between the three lines of each group.
I detect travelling upon those lines another substance, the lines appear to be carrier lines.
The lines never ever move.
The substance upon the lines varies constantly in width and direction, with the direction along all nine lines varying , in direction and grouping of direction.
The measurement apart of the nine lines conforms to a sequence known as the fibonnaci sequence, the exact distances don't matter at this moment.
The centre line of the nine lines crosses other sets of similer nines again in number sequences matching fibonnaci, 13,21,34,55, thus imagine 55 sets of parallel lines crossing at a point, with thus all other eight lines also crossing each other, they cross obviously around a point that creates a circle about it, the angle of the crossing lines is , yes to fibonnaci sequence, thus the contents upon the lines mixs and circulates in never ending permutations of alteration influenced by the resistance upon the lines relative to the mass in line with them out in space.
This geometry always produces a predominant four way ninty degree closeness of many of the groups of lines, and leads to polygons been geometrically formed around the point.
the substance flowing upon the lines flows both ways at once , and enters and leaves each point as it tracks towards and away from the point by switching constantly to the next line nearer to the angle leading into the point and out from the point.
The width apart of the nine lines leads to super circulations at the width they are appart, but the polygons around the point are at every 13 inchs at the flat line central point ninty degrees from the point.

I sense that whatever the substance is upon the lines enters the earth, and exitts spinning in the opposite direction, this opposite direction is attractive to the incoming spinning substance and they clamp together in a multitude of forms relative to the substace content which i sense differs upon each incoming alignment from outer space, thus creation occurs at the surface, thus gravity is focussed to the surface, thus light occurs at the surface.
the resistance the mass of the planet imposes on the substance travelling through it gives a weaker push outward than the incoming push downward, that is our gravity relevant to the mass of this planet, it forms the light due to this difference in pressure.

Ramblings of a hobbit,
nobody tells me anything, it is within us all, we are just remembering what we all know, its hard to take some times, luckily I am not too bright, so the level of input I can cope with, you have more on your plate , and so I forgive you the comments you have levelled at some on here, if I sensed differently, I would not be so forgiving.
As I said gravity is a net inward pressue of creation,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0MZ4hl-dXw
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Re: NRL History

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Paul S. wrote:
Langley wrote:The Bibliography is Out There sir. Its very interesting.

http://www.nrl.navy.mil/NewsRoom/images/horizon.pdf

an interesting history which leaves a lot out.
Hey Langley, thanks for that link. Very interesting. Still more to absorb.
Cant find anything about the story of the origins of the Gunn Diode. Ross Gunn was into very similar things to TT Brown. Yet Gunn goes nuke. That darn recurring theme.
Well, recall my experience with the NRL. Here I had all these documents IN MY HAND and SENT THEM TO THE NRL archives to document my appeal of their categorical rejection of my FOIA request. And STILL they said "we've never heard of the guy."

Or words to that effect. What's the point of being a writer if I can't exaggerate a little...<g>

--PS
I can relate to that. Ive had FOIs refused. Here, there's no hope. We're SUBJECTS of the Crown.

The only thing to try to do is make it more costly for em not to share and as beneficial to them to share.

Having had an episode of the Great Race inflicted on me by Diana Goddess of War (of the Remote), I relate to the challenge where a team had to find something of value hidden within 2 tons of tomatoes while getting pelted with said fruit.

(In the Morning, one of them said "Ive had this, you lot suck", and he walked off. But he came back (commercial breaks only last so long and then, what do you do, stuck in a strange land with nothing to do?) and by the afternoon they had found what they were looking for.)


Maybe its wrong for someone my age to still believe in the Easter Bunny, but I keep finding Eggs. And this is a burrow after all.

.............


These are Geoff's finds. Hope you dont mind Geoff, but Im sticking them here.


http://www.defensetech.org/archives/002278.html

http://www.defensetech.org/archives/002286.html

http://www.spacedaily.com/news/future-00o.html
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Walrus????

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There is mention of a DARPA project called the " Black Walrus" here, which I find fascinating.
and then thanks to Geoff I have this to work on:.........................

http://www.defensetech.org/archives/002278.html

"original solicitation for newly defunct DARPA Walrus airship called for electrokinetic propulsion and related goal of reducing skin drag via same. Airship can carry extremely heaving loads, so, we should assume they had considered lead shielded small nuclear plants for power, enough to generate plasma.
that original language descriptive of such technology aims was quickly removed from later writings.
moot point now, as Walrus will not recieve funding for 2007....
but it does make one wonder.....just what have they done already, re: "black" airships?

Posted by: campbell at March 30, 2006 10:20 PM..............................

Large " freighter" ships using electrokinetic propulsion systems? What did someone here on the forum say about just investigating one whisker on a walrus? Anybody know anything any more about that? Thanks if so. Elizabeth
James Barrett

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My, you are working late tonight Elizabeth. Try this on for size:

“But as it turns out, the Walrus is not just a blimp. If it works -- and if the military buys into it -- it will be the biggest thing that humankind has ever put into the sky. Right now we have only one way of moving the full complement of U. S. force: the aircraft carrier. The Walrus would be as big as an aircraft carrier. It would be as big as the Empire State Building. It would project American power anywhere in the world, and what's more, it would serve as the projection of American power. "If you had a couple of Walruses coming in, it would be like Independence Day. All of a sudden, the sky is darkened. It could be epic in itself. When the U. S. is coming, the impression is that an alien race is coming."

A quote from Preston Carter of DARPA several years ago. Not much, but a start. James
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oh gee

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Thank you very much James.

http://astroroach.blogspot.com/2008/01/ ... alrus.html

"What if the Walrus program wasn't canceled, but simply went "black"? Why go black? Who knows? Maybe they're using nuclear power to generate plasma and they don't want to people to know there are reactors flying over the heads. Maybe someone decided it would be a great way to do research on how populations react to unexplained objects. Maybe the government is just paranoid. Maybe I am.

Imagine a giant airship, able to move at outrageous speed inside a bubble of glowing plasma, with silent ion propulsion. Wouldn't that look a lot like what was seen in Stephenville?"

Now thats a really good question. Outwardly that program was supposed to have been cancelled and never implemented. BUT ..... maybe they just " went black" and if so why? Wouldn't it have been better to stay in the publics eye? In these days of rising fuel costs .... having a comercial super duty fleet of freighters for world commerce would be .... sort of special I would think. Especially if it can move as quickly as the Stephenville unit was quoted as moving.

And I still can't help thinking..... after the incident the Air Force said that they had "operations" in the area at the time. OK ...... Now I just might believe you. Elizabeth
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http://www.darpa.mil/body/news/2005/walrus.pdf

www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-M97AJtems

www.darpa.mil/TTO/programs/walrus_ind/WalrusQA.pdf

http://www.aerosml.com/Completed%20DARPA%20WALRUS.asp

1. Microsoft Word - Walrus _PS05-01_ FinalRelease.doc
...Release Date: 2/1/2005 PS05-01 Walrus GLOBAL REACH AIR VEHICLE DESIGN PROGRAM...Fairfax Drive Arlington, VA 22203-1714 Walrus Phase I Solicitation 2/1/2005 i...47 Walrus Phase I Solicitation 2/1/2005 1...
http://www.arpa.mil/TTO/programs/walrus_ind/ps05-01.pdf
- 202.061k - 03/02/2007 - Similiar pages
2. Microsoft Word - Walrus QA rev6_mdb_24Mar05.doc
Walrus Questions and Answers To submit a formal question to the Walrus Program Office, please send it by email to the contracting...Can you say how? Who is DARPA aiming at to market Walrus to? Congress? The services? A: DARPA has been and...
http://www.arpa.mil/TTO/programs/walrus ... lrusQA.pdf
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3. Microsoft Word - walrus.doc
...IMMEDIATE RELEASE August 26, 2005 CONTRACTORS FOR WALRUS PROGRAM ANNOUNCED The Defense Advanced Research...funding to two contractors for the first phase of the Walrus program. DARPA?s Walrus program will develop and evaluate a very large...
http://www.arpa.mil/body/news/2005/walrus.pdf
- 19.386k - 03/01/2007 - Similiar pages
4. WALRUS Attendees.xls
Walrus Industry Day Attendee List April 26, 2004 WALRUS Program Office Contact Information Program Manager phcarter...Carter Charles Nurse Philip Hunt Justin Hayes Page 1 Walrus Industry Day Attendee List April 26, 2004 Organization...
http://www.arpa.mil/TTO/programs/walrus ... endees.pdf
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Walrus A gregarious, aquatic mammal, related...seal and found in Arctic waters. The walrus is a prime source of leather, oil, ivory, and food.

http://www.ledzeppelin.com/
AM

Post by AM »

This is purely of the top of the head and not directly connected to "Walrus", but still.
Airship can carry extremely heaving loads, so, we should assume they had considered lead shielded small nuclear plants for power, enough to generate plasma.
What would happen if you would use Philo Farnsworth's inventions in the field of fusion for the generation of energy and plasma?

And do not forget Dr. Bussard! Mr. Twigsnapper mentioned him a few posts back. I would like to again draw your attention to what Mr. Schatzkin already stated somewhere on this forum i. e.:
BTW, it was interesting to read in that Bussard obit that Twigsnapper sent us the quotes from Robert Hirsch. That fusor patent that showed up in Dr. Brown's files was actually for a version of the Farnsworth fusor I call the "Hirsch/Meeks Variation." Hirsch worked in Farnsworth's fusion lab before it was closed down in the mid-60s.
Although according to Dr. Brown his work is a departure from the Coulomb's law (thank you Ms. Brown for reminding me of that!) the following quote might be relevant, because it contains multiple interesting clues (http://www.rexresearch.com/bussard/bussard.htm):
The majority of fusion processes being investigated today are very expensive, costing billions of U.S. dollars; require giant machines; and offer no predictability. Nonetheless, we know that fusion works because every star is a fusion reactor. The fusion reactors of the stars and the sun are held together by a direct force field. This works very well and efficiently -- this force field is gravity.

Gravitational forces between particles draw them directly together. Only one other force is known to be like gravity: this is the electric field force or "coulomb" force, between electrically-charged particles.

Charged particles of opposite signs attract each other with direct forces; charged particles in electric fields feel forces directly along field gradients. Thus, fusion fuel plasmas could be held together efficiently by electric forces and electric fields. This is called "Electric Fusion".

Dr. Bussard was not the first to try to create such a field. One notable technique utilized a spherical screen grid that was biased to a positive potential, thereby attracting electrons through the screen, producing a negative potential well. As the electrons passed through the screen, they slowed down as their kinetic energy was transformed into potential energy in the potential well, and ions could then be dropped into it at the edge, fall down, and be recirculated back and forth. Any particles not reacting went back into the well. The only problem with this method was that the grid was not transparent. Because of the high interception rate on the grid, essentially all of the energy put into the electron acceleration went into the grid. Energy was lost and the grid melted. This technique just didn't work.

Dr. Bussard's invention, however, removes the fore-mentioned grid and replaces it with a magnetic field. It is known that magnetic fields do not contain neutral plasmas very well (as illustrated in the case of the Tokamak). Magnetic fields, however, contain electrons very easily because electrons are extremely light.
ONLY ONE OTHER FORCE IS KNOWN TO BE LIKE GRAVITY: THIS IS THE ELECTRIC FIELD...! Both Dr. Bussard as well as Philo Farnsworth were very aware of this. Now wonder that Farnsworth's material was found in Dr. Brown's papers! Just try to keep in mind that as Ms. Brown has reminded me Dr. Brown's work is a departure from Coulomb's law.

THE IMPLICATIONS OF A CONNECTION BETWEEN DR. BROWN's WORK AND FARNSWORTH-BUSSARD THOUGHTS ARE MULTIPLE!

AM

P. S. Dr. Bussard did not control neutral plasma via the magnetic field DIRECTLY - like the Tokamak device! He did it INDIRECTLY by containing electrons with the magnetic field.
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Plasma confinement by 'pulling' not 'pushing'

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Taking a couple of small steps from your post, AM, but already out of my depth (as usual):

Confinement of the plasma by ‘pulling’ rather than ‘pushing’…

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polywell

“The Polywell is a plasma confinement concept that combines elements of inertial electrostatic confinement and magnetic confinement fusion, intended ultimately to produce fusion power. The geometry is a polyhedral configuration of electromagnets, within which the magnetic fields confine a cloud of electrons. The "quasi-spherical" negative electric potential well created by the electrons is in turn used to accelerate and confine ions, which will then undergo nuclear fusion. It was developed by Robert Bussard under a US Navy research contract as an improvement of the Farnsworth-Hirsch fusor”.


http://www.physorg.com/news125929881.html

“An MIT and Columbia University team has successfully tested a novel reactor that could chart a new path toward nuclear fusion, which could become a safe, reliable and nearly limitless source of energy”.

Google video tech talk given by Dr Bussard, Nov 2006:
"Clean, cheap nuclear power - no, really"
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 6673788606
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqOKvonLrH8
Thats the beatles elizabeth, I am the walrus, in which they make reference again to lucy in the sky ( L.S.D )
http://www.millenniumairship.com/products.htm

http://www.jabberwocky.com/carroll/walrus.html
remember Lewis carroll was not Lewis carroll, he was a super mathmatician.

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Im having trouble with the concept of stealth blimps.

Bit like Pamela Anderson putting on a Clingon Cloaking T shirt.

In the rain.
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Anti-gravity and the Coulomb Potential

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Here is a little paper on anti-gravity:
http://www.aspden.org/books/Asp/1991a.pdf

Also,
http://www.aspden.org/books/Asp/1989b.pdf

and check out the drawing on page 42 in this document:
http://www.aspden.org/books/Asp/1995e.pdf

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AM wrote:
ONLY ONE OTHER FORCE IS KNOWN TO BE LIKE GRAVITY: THIS IS THE ELECTRIC FIELD...! Both Dr. Bussard as well as Philo Farnsworth were very aware of this. Now wonder that Farnsworth's material was found in Dr. Brown's papers! Just try to keep in mind that as Ms. Brown has reminded me Dr. Brown's work is a departure from Coulomb's law.

THE IMPLICATIONS OF A CONNECTION BETWEEN DR. BROWN's WORK AND FARNSWORTH-BUSSARD THOUGHTS ARE MULTIPLE!

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Ok, now for some discussion. (This is addressed at Ms Brown as well, if she so chooses to jump in here, the water is a little chilly and it is ok to jump in with your clothes)

I am going to ask a General question for if we say that it is a departure form Coulombs Law we must first understand what it is: Exactly what is Coulombs Law?

Then after understanding what it is, identify the departure point and it boils down to only one thing and from there the points spread out.

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Re: Anti-gravity and the Coulomb Potential

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FM No Static At All wrote:Here is a little paper on anti-gravity:
http://www.aspden.org/books/Asp/1991a.pdf
http://www.aspden.org/books/Asp/1989b.pdf
and check out the drawing on page 42 in this document:
http://www.aspden.org/books/Asp/1995e.pdf
Fred
Excellent thx Fred.

Googling away at the above, a pretty much direct path led to Ning Li. And the plot thickens but only apparently.

Ning Li spins ions.

I urge the non techies like me to have a bit of read of these:

http://ffden-2.phys.uaf.edu/211.fall200 ... search.htm

Ning Li

http://www.scansite.org/scan.php?pid=157

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ning_Li_(physicist)

http://www.popularmechanics.com/science ... 81736.html

AC Gravity

"The first thing to understand about Li's device is that it is neither an antigravity machine nor a gravitational shield," says Jonathan Campbell, a scientist at the NASA Marshall Space Flight Center who has worked with Li. "It does not modify gravity, rather it produces a gravity-like field that may be either attractive or repulsive." Li describes her device as a method of generating a never-before-seen force field that acts on matter in a way that is similar to gravity. Since it may be either repulsive or attractive she calls it "AC gravity." "It adds to, or counteracts, or re-directs gravity," explains Larry Smalley, the former chairman of the University of Alabama at Huntsville (UAH) physics department. "Basically, you are adding a couple of vectors to zero it [gravity] out or enhance it."

http://www.zpenergy.com/modules.php?nam ... nt&sid=838
Is Ning Li missing?


Sorry to break in Mikado.

electron shells is all I know of Coulomb - light emission when energised to jump or become ionised.
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Martin Decker

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It was tough finding any reference to his name but searching legal records I found only one paper referencing Decker and a parcel in Bala Cynwyd, PA.

http://bulk.resource.org/courts.gov/c/F ... -1259.html


Linda, Robert Development Company has no other references online.

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Re: Anti-gravity and the Coulomb Potential

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Langley wrote:
FM No Static At All wrote:Here is a little paper on anti-gravity:
http://www.aspden.org/books/Asp/1991a.pdf
http://www.aspden.org/books/Asp/1989b.pdf
and check out the drawing on page 42 in this document:
http://www.aspden.org/books/Asp/1995e.pdf
Fred
Excellent thx Fred.



electron shells is all I know of Coulomb - light emission when energised to jump or become ionised.
I Wiki'd and found this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coulomb's_law

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Coulomb's law, developed in the 1780s by French physicist Charles Augustin de Coulomb, may be stated in scalar form as follows:

The magnitude of the electrostatic force between two point electric charges is directly proportional to the product of the magnitudes of each charge and inversely proportional to the square of the distance between the charges.

In Aspden's paper on The Coulomb Potential he argues that based on computations of energy and quantum dynamics, that either Coulomb or Lorentz is wrong. I am leaning toward Lorentz being in error as Coulomb has held up through analysis where Lorentz is still theoretical.

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