The Caroline Group

[kevin.b]

Earlier today I posted about the masons and their twin towers looking like something tesla would have built.
I have been struggling all day with electrics, my boiler is having a laugh with me.
All I know is my head is full of capacitors and coils, and you all start talking about capacitors?
We use 240 a/c here in the uk, half of that must be direct?, its only a fraction of TIME that it isn't?
Kevin

[greggvizza]

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[Mikado14]

We use 240 a/c here in the uk, half of that must be direct?, its only a fraction of TIME that it isn't?
Kevin

sorry kevin, half of 240 is 120. What you have to include is the frequency which I believe is 50 hz. In one second you will have 50 pulses of 120v above (positive) a ground reference and 50 pulses of 120 v below (negative) a ground reference. Sorry my friend, no DC.

Now, if that isn't what your asking, could you clarify?

Mikado

PS: the above is actually not correct but I am trying to keep it simple for you must understand that pi is involved which means the 240 is the sine of the curve or 240 divided by .707 or really 340 which gives you 680 peak to peak.

[Trickfox]

I Like the masons....Their jars are the very best!!!!

How dare you X mee gregg..... XXX on you buddy!!

Mikado.... Just how long of an interval is "One second" anyway?
I mean in the big picture of it all is it really 1/60 of an hour and 1/24 th of a day which turns out to be 1/364 th of a year (more or less a few hours).

Trickfox

[Mikado14]

Mikado.... Just how long of an interval is "One second" anyway?
I mean in the big picture of it all is it really 1/60 of an hour and 1/24 th of a day which turns out to be 1/364 th of a year (more or less a few hours).

Trickfox

Uh...Trickfox? .... Are you still in the shower? Don't you mean a sexond..err....second is really 1/60th of a minute and then 1/60th of an hour etc.?

But then maybe that is your point..it is only relevant to the observer or who ...... is it time for the meeting yet?

Mikado

[Trickfox]

golly, you are right there Mikado I missed one division....That system simply does not seam to WANT to make sense to me too.

The point is that time only exists at the location it belongs to.

I know we all know this deep in our hearts but Time is just one of those things we can't get a real steady perspective on.

In our case Mikado, someone else makes the decisions because we are all subject to our limitations.

Trickfox

[greggvizza]

How dare you X mee gregg..... XXX on you buddy!!
Trickfox

Those XX's are me deleting a post. Something has changed with the forum setup. In the past there was a button to delete a post but it is no longer there so I had to edit it with XX.

But now that you mention it, your wet fox photo was a bit XX.

GV

[Trickfox]

Have you ever seen a real fox wear pants?
I guess that is how I prefer being seen naked anyway.
looks cute anyhow right Victoria?
Call it a Red flag for the post that went with it. Mom says we need to put flags on here sometimes.

Trickfox

[Chris Knight]

Just a comment to wbrown, who quoted:

[quote]“The Effect was first observed when the condenser plates were charged with a DIRECT CURRENT. But the experience noted above, which was observed subsequently during other experiments, indicates something of the same phenomenon is present when condensers are charged with ALTERNATING current alsoâ€

[greggvizza]

Chris Knight,

That makes sense. If they were speaking of an umbrella style model, the anode and cathode are so far apart that the AC would hardly see any capacitance. But if it were the gravitator that they were referring to, it would probably explode if connected to AC.

GV

[Mikado14]

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Also, has anyone considered that an electrical system, such as the "Adamski Configuration" may have more than one imposed electrical source - one high-frequency source to provide a stabilizing, gyroscopic influence, while a second source provides a directional component ?

I believe gregg and I had a discussion as to this a while back...remember gregg?

Mikado

[greggvizza]

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Also, has anyone considered that an electrical system, such as the "Adamski Configuration" may have more than one imposed electrical source - one high-frequency source to provide a stabilizing, gyroscopic influence, while a second source provides a directional component ?

I believe gregg and I had a discussion as to this a while back...remember gregg?

Mikado

I remember it if it was what I referred to as a modulated carrier signal and you referred to as a drive signal.

When experimenting with TTB umbrella style devices (which I found to be not much different than lifters), I tried various experiments using a Wavetek function generator which provided various waveform shapes within a range of 0-20 MHz. In my experiments, DC produced more lift than AC at any frequency, but pulsed DC (under 100 Hz) produced more lift than straight DC.

But I know there is more to the AC end of things than I have been able to uncover. Obviously, there is a certain magic in beat frequencies or interference patterns. John Hutcheson is an example of that. But unfortunately he doesn’t know how to explain what he did. For him it seems like it was just the perfect accident, stumbled upon while tinkering one day.

GV

[Trickfox]

OK....Ok.... you guys are getting too technical here.. If you keep heading down this path you will end up bumping into me down here in the hole. You will have to back up a few more times and re-tune your aim a bit because there are a lot of mirrors around here and you will have trouble seeing what is real and what is reflected dimensions and dead ends.

Gregg...if you think sound engineering was a challenge wait till you get into electrohydrodynamics at the atomic stages and you start looking at "The curl of a vector function"

Try looking up this:
Berkeley Physics Course book Volume 2;
Electricity and Magnetism
ISBN 07-004859-2
Page 64 section 2.15

[Mikado14]

"Is it? Indeed? " and of course I was responding to the remark of such a thing being impossible. If it were not impossible then .... who would you bring together at one diningroom table to make such a thing ..... happen ....

Your move. twigsnapper

Mr. Twigsnapper,

Somehow or another I have allowed myself to follow a wrong path or perhaps not.

I, for some reason, interjected the idea that if you were going to build such a ...... device? .... that wisdom should be sitting at the table as well.

Do you wish a list of individuals to just build it or do you wish a list of names for not only those to build it but those to utilize it ....... wisely and for the benefit of mankind? And if so, would you be kind enough to explain what the definition of "benefiting mankind" would be?

I must say, I am still at it.

Mikado

[Elizabeth Helen Drake]

I just reread that question Mikado and I think you might have missed what Mr. Twigsnapper was actually asking. ( easy enough to do I have had similar problems!)

What he asked .... look .... is ..... Who would YOU pick. Not who HE would pick. Does that make some difference? Elizabeth