What do you think gravity is?

It seems there are quite a few visitors who have their own ideas about one of the great mysteries of our universe, Gravity. Here's a place where all the budding Einstein's among us can wax eloquent on the subject.

Re: What do you think gravity is?

Postby skyfish » Fri Dec 12, 2008 11:09 pm

What is dark matter?
Shadow world?

But the idea of WIMP-less dark matter gets a little more interesting than simply considering weaker or stronger dark matter candidates. Feng says that WIMP-less dark matter could provide some support for the idea of a hidden sector – a so-called shadow world. “There are theories that there is a shadow world behind ours.

http://www.physorg.com/news148316483.html

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Re: What do you think gravity is?

Postby skyfish » Sat Dec 13, 2008 8:55 pm

Here it is!!!!!!!!!! Finally!!!! This is it!!!!

Here is what I have been saying...dark energy as a scalar field that manifests gravity!!!!!!!!!


Is Dark Energy a Macroscopic Effect of Quantum Gravity?

Current models that attempt to explain dark energy include Lambda-CDM (Cold Dark Matter) and Quintessence. Lambda-CDM includes a cosmological constant that describes this dark energy as a vacuum energy that fills fills all space. It is called the standard model of cosmology, as it is the most widely accepted model. Quintessence, on the other hand, explains dark energy as a scalar field with density and equation of state that varies throughout spacetime. Neither, however, have been proven to a satisfactory degree of validity. Also, neither can explain exactly why dark energy exists.

Marochnik, Usikov, and Vereshkov dub their theory “Lambda-GCDM” where the added G stand for gravity. Gravity is incorporated into the existing Lambda-CDM model by interpolating exact solutions of one-loop quantum gravity. Loop quantum gravity is a proposed theory that attempts to reconcile quantum mechanis with general relativity.


http://dailyphysics.com/is-dark-energy- ... um-gravity

This is the model that will explain gravity, dark energy, aether and electrogravity!!!!!!

And I agree with Mr. Bearden that it is the energy of the dimension of time!

A pressurized quantum universe bubble is our home.

This is of major importance to understanding Dr. Brown's work. imho ; )

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Re: What do you think gravity is?

Postby skyfish » Sun Dec 14, 2008 12:00 am

A pdf link from the site above. This is so cool! This is what I have been saying!

This is important. This connects some major dots. A critical piece of the puzzle.
This explains why gravity is a pressure and is critical to Dr. Brown's work.


http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/arxiv/pdf/081 ... 4484v1.pdf

This wavelength is always of the order of a distance to the horizon of events.
In this fact, a common feature of macroscopic quantum effects is manifested: such effects are always formed by
quantum micro-objects, whose wavelengths are of the order of macroscopic values. With this in mind, we can say
that macroscopic quantum gravity effects exist across the Universe as a whole. The results of this work suggest
that the existence of the graviton–ghost condensate is directly responsible for the Dark Energy effect, i.e. for the
observational data of the acceleration of the expansion of the Universe [3, 4]. Most significantly, a graviton–ghost
condensate formation is direct consequence of the first principles of the theory of gravity and quantum field theory,
so that no hypothetical fields are needed to explain the Dark Energy effect.


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Re: What do you think gravity is?

Postby skyfish » Wed Dec 17, 2008 2:39 am

Driving the expansion of the universe and arresting it's development. Gravity and Dark Energy are one and the same...manifest by a "hidden dimension"....cosmological consant and the dimension of time.


http://www.physorg.com/news148659036.html


"This result could be described as 'arrested development of the universe'," said Alexey Vikhlinin of the Smithsonian Astrophysical Observatory in Cambridge, Mass., who led the research. "Whatever is forcing the expansion of the universe to speed up is also forcing its development to slow down."

The study strengthens the evidence that dark energy is the cosmological constant. Although it is the leading candidate to explain dark energy, theoretical work suggests it should be about 10 raised to the power of 120 times larger than observed. Therefore, alternatives to general relativity, such as theories involving hidden dimensions, are being explored.


A quantum pressurized bubble....the universe. It is this property of the universe that makes Dr. Brown's results possible.

crickets..................................

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Re: What do you think gravity is?

Postby Linda Brown » Wed Dec 17, 2008 4:19 am

Well said Skyfish!

And brought down to another size perhaps this is also the way that the Caroline members are able to operate ... to maintain a certain required " balance" in development ....

" "Whatever is forcing the expansion of the universe to speed up is also forcing its development to slow down."

It may seem counter productive but actually it is not.

Wonderful quotes and links. Thankyou! Linda
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Re: What do you think gravity is?

Postby skyfish » Wed Dec 17, 2008 4:50 am

Thanks Linda,
Here is some more reading. All of this stuff is just
popping up, and this is so fun because this is what
I have been suggesting. Just in time!

Your fathers effect intereacts with the medium responsible for observations that are interpreted
as dark energy....gravity, cosmological constant, zpf, dimension of time.

http://blog.wired.com/wiredscience/2008 ... y-ein.html

"Putting all of this data together gives us the strongest evidence yet that dark energy is the cosmological constant, or in other words, that 'nothing weighs something,'" said lead researcher, Alexey Vikhlinin of the Smithsonian Astrophysical Observatory in Cambridge, Massachusetts, in a press release. "A lot more testing is needed, but so far Einstein's theory is looking as good as ever."

Now, scientists will focus on pinning down these energies, which, as seen in the diagram at right, drive the expansion of the universe. Vikhlinin's co-investigator, William Forman, compared dark energy to "springs" driving matter apart at high speeds.

"We're now confident in the existence of the springs," said Forman, an astrophysicist at the Smithsonian Astrophysical Observatory. "Now our goal is to understand the nature of the springs
."


The nature of the springs...energy ....pressurizing and expansive at the same time.

So cool!

Waiting for their wits to grow sharper.... : )

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Re: What do you think gravity is?

Postby skyfish » Fri Dec 19, 2008 9:35 pm

More dark energy:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... newsletter

In addition to offering a new line of sight on this mysterious phenomenon, the research supports the interpretation of dark energy as a "cosmological constant," a force that permeates empty space and, bizarrely, has precisely the opposite effect of gravity.

At the human scale, dark energy is imperceptibly weak. But even the weakest of forces can add up to something powerful when the scale becomes cosmic, and all that vast, empty space between the galaxies is thrown into the mix.

"Even nothing, even empty space, weighs something, and because in our universe we've got a lot of nothing, it has a major effect on our evolution and causes space itself to accelerate," said David Spergel, an astrophysicist at Princeton University.

What remains unclear is what dark energy is, exactly.

"We've discovered this incredible dark energy; we don't understand what the hell it is," said Lawrence M. Krauss, a physicist at Arizona State University.




"opposite effect of gravity"...yes that's true as long as you accept GRAVITY AS A PULL AND NOT A PRESSURE! DOH!

Here is something that Frank W. shared with me recently:

One can also have field energy that is *not* localized. To describe that case, the particle concept may not be a useful point of departure. The ultimate example is energy that is completely uniform in space. A uniform distribution of energy can be consistent with the theory of relativity, if it is associated with negative pressure. (This is discussed at length in "Lightness of Being".) In its gravitational consequences, such a uniform distribution of energy provides a realization of Einstein's cosmological term.

A uniform energy medium, cosmological constant...aether, manifesting gravity.

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Re: What do you think gravity is?

Postby wdavidb » Mon Dec 22, 2008 6:24 am

skyfish wrote:What is dark matter?
Shadow world?

But the idea of WIMP-less dark matter gets a little more interesting than simply considering weaker or stronger dark matter candidates. Feng says that WIMP-less dark matter could provide some support for the idea of a hidden sector – a so-called shadow world. “There are theories that there is a shadow world behind ours.

http://www.physorg.com/news148316483.html

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Hello skyfish,

A shadow world is it, but there are zillions of them and each is as real as the next so there is nothing shadowy about them or ours.

Dark matter and dark energy are hypothetical examples attempting to explain the missing portion of universe which remains hidden from view.

To understand this situation we must at least acknowledge that someone is playing hide the pea on us whereby a great portion of physics remains classified as a secret. All the things the grunts are not supposed to know.

A simple theory of everything involves a single base source of energy affecting every aspect of universe in relation to a force capable of supporting, sustaining and perpetuating all physical structure and controlling both the form and function of all physical structure.

This would position gravity and electromagnetism as dynamic responses rather than forces themselves.

What is incredible is the apparent lack of understanding concerning the nature of universe, in respect to our ability to fathom the dimensional properties of universe being different than the properties of an office or a coffee shop.

Localized conditions can be conveniently quantified in relation to the square footage of the office, the height of the doors and windows and the depth of the carpet under our feet, but to attempt to apply those same values to the structure of universe leads us into a dark and terrible place from which there is no escape.

Linearized dimensions represent a static condition of space, time and motion, yet the universe is not static nor can it be accurately described or quantified in static terms of reference, such as yards, feet, meters, grams, seconds and so on.

This is equally true of gravity, as gravity is considered to have a linear relationship with mass and acceleration etc.

Nothing could be further from the truth, as gravity does not have a linear speed, in fact gravity is not even in motion.

Gravity is simply a reflection of the field condition in which a given mass is located, whereby the mass will follow the path of least resistance to a further increase in acceleration, which is commonly referred to as free fall.

Gravity itself does nothing, it is simply a name tag for something we mistakenly perceive as a force without realizing it is nothing of the sort, but simply a dynamic response to the underlying energy focused to the core of our planet.

In this respect we might view the visible universe as the condition of universe remaining relative to our planet, whereby there is a different condition of universe remaining relative to every planetary body of universe. But those other conditions of universe are not presently accessible to us as they exist beyond the boundaries of our existing condition.

To control gravity effectively and efficiently we must learn to modulate the underlying energy affecting the condition of field (the visible universe) remaining relative to the system of reference, and in our case our system of reference is planet earth. But our system of reference could just as easily be a people made structure which was deliberately designed to modulate the underlying energy remaining relative to it.

Such a structure would have its own condition of field (visible universe) but still be capable of functioning within the field (visible universe) of the earth, which gives us a field within a field. But as there is a non-uniform differential in energy (underlying energy) existing between the field of the earth and the field of the people made structure there must also be a time/line differential as well. This means the two fields are out of sync and will affect distortions.

Unfortunately we seem oblivious to distortional effects, as this is one of the things we grunts are not supposed to know about. So mums the word, eh?

If you want to see or experience gravity control in action look up at the clouds which contain at times many tons of water. Water is two parts hydrogen and one part oxygen and hydrogen has the highest ratio of energy per unit of mass of any known substance or material and oxygen has a pretty high ratio of energy too.

And because the underlying energy of universe is dynamic it is continually increasing, whereby the energy of hydrogen has a higher ratio of energy per unit of mass than the surrounding air, which causes water vapor to rise skyward. But as the underlying energy of the surrounding air is focused to the core of the earth the energy diminishes with altitude making it is possible for huge quantities of water vapor to accumulate as clouds, but as the clouds grow in size their ratio of energy per unit of mass decreases. When the differential in energy existing between the clouds and surrounding air swings the other way guess what, the water vapor condenses and falls to the ground as rain, snow or hale.
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Re: What do you think gravity is?

Postby Linda Brown » Mon Dec 22, 2008 3:54 pm

Hello wdavidb!

How nice it is to see your post!

I have a simple question attached to this part of your message:

"Such a structure would have its own condition of field (visible universe) but still be capable of functioning within the field (visible universe) of the earth, which gives us a field within a field. But as there is a non-uniform differential in energy (underlying energy) existing between the field of the earth and the field of the people made structure there must also be a time/line differential as well. This means the two fields are out of sync and will affect distortions."

Such a structure..... Do you envision that " such a structure" could be built to effect this " field". And once that has happened .... would the builders know then what they have? I would suspect yes.... but I would love to hear your predicition. Or do you think this has happened already? Linda
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Re: What do you think gravity is?

Postby skyfish » Mon Dec 22, 2008 11:44 pm

Hi wdavidb and Linda,

You wrote:

To understand this situation we must at least acknowledge that someone is playing hide the pea on us whereby a great portion of physics remains classified as a secret. All the things the grunts are not supposed to know.

This may have been true, but there is new information coming to the surface as we "speak".
Frank Wilczek, the Nobel Prize Winner in Physics, has recently written a book called The Lightness of
Being, Mass, Ether, and the Unification of Forces. He does support an ether(his spelling) theory, and this can
provide a unification theory. It is wonderful that a modern physicist of note has taken this stand,
and I believe that we can better understand Dr. Brown's work through a theory that includes an ether.

As he recently told me:

One can also have field energy that is *not* localized. To describe that case, the particle concept may not be a useful point of departure. The ultimate example is energy that is completely uniform in space. A uniform distribution of energy can be consistent with the theory of relativity, if it is associated with negative pressure. (This is discussed at length in "Lightness of Being".) In its gravitational consequences, such a uniform distribution of energy provides a realization of Einstein's cosmological term.

Energy that is completely uniform in space....particle concept not a useful point of departure....and it is possible
to link this with gravity, dark energy and the cosmological constant. I hope to get him a copy of Paul's book when it is published.

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Re: What do you think gravity is?

Postby skyfish » Mon Dec 22, 2008 11:50 pm

Linda,

You wrote:
Such a structure..... Do you envision that " such a structure" could be built to effect this " field". And once that has happened .... would the builders know then what they have? I would suspect yes.... but I would love to hear your predicition. Or do you think this has happened already?

Such a structure is a gravitator.

Someone has probably known about this for a long time, and there are probably others building new and
improved gravitators as we speak. :)

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Re: What do you think gravity is?

Postby skyfish » Tue Dec 23, 2008 7:39 pm

More info from an article earlier this year about dark energy, dark matter and gravity.
As I continue to attempt to show a connection with these forces that will
indicate that dark energy and gravity are one and the same non-localized
field... particle concept may not be a useful point of departure.... :)
Just a matter of perspective.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20 ... 094056.htm

Dr Zhao reports that, "Dark energy has already revealed its presence by masking as dark matter 60 years ago if we accept that dark matter and dark energy are linked phenomena that share a common origin."

In Dr Zhao's model, dark energy and dark matter are simply different manifestations of the same thing, which he has considered as a 'dark fluid'. On the scale of galaxies, this dark fluid behaves like matter and on the scale of the Universe overall as dark energy, driving the expansion of the Universe. Importantly, his model, unlike some similar work, is detailed enough to produce the same 3:1 ratio of dark energy to dark matter as is predicted by cosmologists.


"dark fluid" isn't that interesting???? lol

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Re: What do you think gravity is?

Postby Mikado14 » Tue Dec 23, 2008 8:49 pm

skyfish wrote:"dark fluid" isn't that interesting???? lol

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Oh yes, use it from the time.....starting fluid, about $1.29 at Pep Boys.

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Re: What do you think gravity is?

Postby Linda Brown » Tue Dec 23, 2008 10:00 pm

haha funny man.

But " dark fluid" is an interesting idea. doncha think? Linda
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Re: What do you think gravity is?

Postby skyfish » Wed Dec 24, 2008 1:04 am

Hi Linda and Mikado,
It is entertaining that modern science is now considering something with fluid-like properties.
Didn't Tesla and others describe it as such?
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